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Ole Cock III Build
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 10:51 PM UTC
Hi Paul.The pics I have of Ole Cock III show the hub covers in place.
This was just a protective cover over the actual wheel, and not a smooth hub.
Carry on building now,,panic over.
Nige
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2009 - 12:03 AM UTC
Paul:
That is one impressive cockpit. Great way to start the build. I am hooked on those Eduard goodies

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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2009 - 04:11 AM UTC
Nige thanks for the heads up about hub covers. Man I love learning this kind of stuff.

Thanks for the kind word Taylor and you are right. I too am turning into an Eduard interior junkie myself..

Paul
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2009 - 05:40 PM UTC
Paul,
The Cockpit is great.
Wish I could afford aftermarket stuff.
BTW what with you and Nigel building BIG,did I miss the small print saying builds must be bigger than 1/48th



Chris
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 09:22 AM UTC
Hey Chris Thanks for the kind words.

They Etch itself isn't really that much in 32 scale about 33 USD. for the Big Ed set. Plus the kit was on sale too. So I figures if I could go 1/32 scale for a 1/48th price what they Heck.

I also got a second 1/32 scale in the wings for my "Look No Hands" Build as well just got to order the Etch again and were off..

Paul
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 09:49 AM UTC

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What with you and Nigel building BIG,did I miss the small print saying builds must be bigger than 1/48th ?



'ere...........I'm building 1:72 as well
I think theres a good balance of scales in the campaign, somebody needs to cover 1:144 scale though
Nige
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 10:48 AM UTC

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'ere...........I'm building 1:72 as well
I think theres a good balance of scales in the campaign, somebody needs to cover 1:144 scale though
Nige



Not with all the wiring that the engine needs

paul
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 12:48 PM UTC

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'ere...........I'm building 1:72 as well
I think theres a good balance of scales in the campaign, somebody needs to cover 1:144 scale though
Nige



Not with all the wiring that the engine needs

paul



I cant say I've tried it in 1:144th, but heres a 1:72 P+W2800

Cockpit turned out nice on that one too


Wiring up engines is very relaxing,,,,,,,,,,,all of my therapists tell me.
Nige
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 10:59 PM UTC

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I think theres a good balance of scales in the campaign, somebody needs to cover 1:144 scale though
Nige

I would have thought Litorio would have picked up this area but he's building a 1/48 scale kit for a change
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 11:05 PM UTC

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'ere...........I'm building 1:72 as well
I think theres a good balance of scales in the campaign, somebody needs to cover 1:144 scale though
Nige



Not with all the wiring that the engine needs

paul



I cant say I've tried it in 1:144th, but heres a 1:72 P+W2800

Cockpit turned out nice on that one too


Wiring up engines is very relaxing,,,,,,,,,,,all of my therapists tell me.
Nige



Ok now your just showing off..

I bet the therapists say that and its good foor buisness too..

Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 12:51 AM UTC
Ok as promised here are some progress pics.

First up is my first attempt to wire the engine. Although I used the PE harness in the PE set I am pretty happy with the results. No weathering yet but that is next up.





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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 01:00 AM UTC
After my posting mishap here is the cowling. Warning to all those building a 1/32 Hasegawa kit. Do not go by the instuctions. It will drive you to drink. After reading a build review I decided to try the method mentioned and low and behold it was much easier.

Basically put the engine mount ring in place and build the cowling around it without the engine in it. ** A warning about that** Make sure the ring is facing the correct way or the engine locator pins will not fit. On mine the ejector pin marks should face towards the cockpit. If it is the other way again the locator pins on the cylinders will not line up.

Ok here is what all that rambling means:









Here she is dry fitted to here permanant home



That seems to be the secret of this whole build....... Dry Fit .. As you can see with just tape the fit is very good so I see fit issues with the cowling..... YET...

Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 09:49 AM UTC
Hi Paul.
Shes certainly shaping up to be a cracker, and that engine looks the business.
Thanks for taking the time to explain the cowling assembly. Its been pointed out on many occasions that its not the easiest part of the Hasegawa kits.
I remember reading a review of the kit when it was released in which the author had a real bee in his bonnet about how Hasegawa had the cowling panel joins run across some of the fasteners.
Ive highlighted the ones he means in your photo.

(note the super hitech method of highlighting them )
Infact, the joins do cross the fasteners as can be seen in this photo.


Cant wait to see some paint on Ole Cock III.
Nige

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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 10:26 PM UTC
Thanks for the kind words and the info on the joins Nige. No worries about the high tech highlighting. Sometimes simpler is best for me. Besides I am so low tech here what you did was High Tech

I did notice the joins and thought well at least they would be a good guide to make sure the cowling was aligned. I guess that is one for Hasegawa.

One thing I am scartching my head over though is the landing gear. It is begging for a brake line to be run but I haven't found a decent pic to see its route down the strut to the tire. I tried to use the PE ones but that was a disaster on my part. :_l

Hope to have some paint flying on her soon. I too cannot wait to see her with at least some of her clothes on..

Paul

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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 10:45 PM UTC

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One thing I am scartching my head over though is the landing gear. It is begging for a brake line to be run but I haven't found a decent pic to see its route down the strut to the tire. I tried to use the PE ones but that was a disaster on my part. :_l
Paul




All you had to do was ask



Extra bonus points if you can name the pilot
Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 03:56 AM UTC
Would it be Bob Johnson and his crew chief by any chance?

Oh and do I win a prize?
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 05:01 AM UTC

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Would it be Bob Johnson and his crew chief by any chance?

Oh and do I win a prize?



Hi Allen.
Yes its Robert Johnson and no, you dont win a prize
Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 09:53 AM UTC

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no, you dont win a prize

Dang I have to admit I did cheat slightly though
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 11:09 AM UTC
Nige that was exactly the thing I needed thanks.

Allen shame on you for trying to cheat Besides you would have to have included the Name of his crew cheif as well to win the prize.

Oh by the way Nige. DO I get a prize for noticing that there is only 3 fifty's sticking out of the wing and not four, plus they are plugged with what looks like wax and not the familiar tape?? Huh?? Do I??!!

Paul
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Allen shame on you for trying to cheat Besides you would have to have included the Name of his crew chief as well to win the prize.

Oh by the way Nige. DO I get a prize for noticing that there is only 3 fifty's sticking out of the wing and not four, plus they are plugged with what looks like wax and not the familiar tape?? Huh?? Do I??!!

Paul



Yeah Allen
Paul.
Nah..lol.

BTW, Johnsons crew chief was Sgt J C Penrod.
42-2512 LM-Q, Bob Johnsons last P-47 was called "Penrod And Sam", Sam being Johnsons middle name.

Do I get a prize?,,,lol.

Just to get back on topic, Glad the photos were helpfull.
Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 07:08 AM UTC

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plus they are plugged with what looks like wax and not the familiar tape?? Huh?? Do I??!!



I guess it has to be something else, and a lot thinner and lighter. A wax plug would be too heavy to move out of the barrel. I've seen pictures of barrels like my army G3, blown open like banana peels after firing with less than an inch of snow in the muzzle. The snow just get too hard to accelerate, so the barrel might crack in stead. Needless to say, that can be as harmful for the skin of a wing as for a sniper.

Tony
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Posted: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 07:32 AM UTC
Hmm,,I wonder what was used then as its definately an internal rather than external "plug"
Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 07:31 PM UTC
Not so sure they are plugged. Looking at the picture Nige posted the other day on the WEN thread i would say that its a high shine in the tube. seems like some pilots carried 6 instead of 8 guns to try ands shed a little weight. ( I am learning :-))

Also i take Tony's point about plugging barrels but don't forget this is a blast tube so there is no seal and could be open both ends so there will be no pressure build up to split the tube..
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Posted: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 07:46 PM UTC

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Hi Paul.
I have a photo somewhere of this aircraft being fitted with droptanks full of K rations which apparently were dropped on isolated troops in Holland.

Nige



Bet that hurt.......pays not to get isolated
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 - 03:01 AM UTC
OK Gents no update yet but one will be coming soon I promise.

After some research and the great help from our P-47 Guru Nige I am a little puzzled on this landing gear thing. ( yes I am probably thinking way to deep on this one)

In the pics generously provided aboveshowing the brake lines. I noticed that the Black and white photo shows what appears to be paint chipping on the strut.

Question is what color is chipping? Were the struts primed with int green and painted silver or vice versa or what.

To throw another fly in the ointment I found this color pic of Col Grabresky with his crew



Now it looks like the strut is not SIlver or metal and the armor wheel covers have a white interior.

Ok enough of that my head hurts and I am going back to the bench. Any help would be useful.

Paul