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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 12:23 PM UTC
Heres my build blog for the Campaign.
Its the Vintage Fighter Series "Bubbletop" #VF2404



First impressions?
My life its big!! The box is crammed with 22 sprues of parts, and thats not counting the wings, fusalage halves, and clear parts.
Both styles of cockpit floor are included as well as 4 different types of propellor. Theres an impressive selection of underwing stores as well.
No fusalage fillet is included in this particular version of the kit, which will allow you to build a D-25.26,27 or 28 version.
Decal options in the kit are 2 American, 2 English and 2 French subjects, and I was lucky enough to get a decal sheet for the upcoming VF2405 kit which has options for a 352nd FS aircraft and a few 56th FG P-47's.
As yet I havent decided which markings my finished model will sport, but I'm going to be building a version with the ribbed cockpit floor so mine will be an early Bubbletop.

I intend to make this a review as well as a blog, so I'll be posting sprue shots as well as progress photos as it develops.
Nige
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Posted: Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 01:41 AM UTC
Ohhhhhh man this ones gonna be good...

Can't wait to see the pics and review, but with all those other things on the bench Nige. You may have to campaign for a bigger one.

Paul
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Posted: Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 02:33 AM UTC
Yup! I hope for many updates, so I can use it as NMF-instructions . Take out the angle grinder and sheet metal cutters Nigel. This is a biggie!

Tony
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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2009 - 07:49 AM UTC
Here we go
I'm going to be splitting my build time between this and the Dave Schilling "M". Weather forecast for the next week is awfull so that bodes well for time at the bench.
First area, as per normal for me, is the cockpit.


The throttle quadrant alone is 6 pieces! Looking at the instrument panel it consists of 3 pieces. Rear, "instruments", and front. The idea being to paint the actual instruments on the middle piece. The detail is good and I'll be attempting this. As always,,theres a "Plan B"
I couldnt find a decal on the sheet supplied ( its big! ), but there is one on the decal sheet for the next VFS release. I'll address this in another post.
A trial fit of the main pieces show that they fit together well. Detail is quite good but there is scope for an AM detail set here.

I did consider shaving away the pipework and adding some of my own but decided against it in this area as its hardly visible when assembled. Should be a good exercise in detail painting.
So, just how big is this cockpit.
Well, here it is sitting next to a 1:72 P-47!


Time to start getting some paint on this beast!

Nige
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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2009 - 01:13 PM UTC
Nigel:
I have been looking forward to this one. The comparison to the 72nd scale bolt really gives a sense of the size of this one. I will be watching as well to get lessons on the NMF.

Taylor
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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2009 - 10:30 PM UTC
How come everybody's expecting it to be a NMF bird?
Maybe the underside will be, depends which scheme I go for in the end
Nige
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Posted: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 03:12 AM UTC
We're not expecting. We're just hoping!

But the wet dream would be that you have dug up a real secret, like a colour photo of a "bomber assembly ship" P 47 in Ronald McDonaldish colours.

But that might just be too much to hope for.
Tony
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Posted: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 02:14 PM UTC

Quoted Text


So, just how big is this cockpit.


Nige



This is going ot be a very interesting one to follow.

I thought when you made this statement. There was going to be a picture of you sitting in the thing.

No matter what scheme you decide it is going to be BIG no matter how you lok at it. I just hope you have enough paint and get less trouble picking out the shades of color

Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 07:06 AM UTC
wish i'd get mine was to be ready in january but not yet..
kelly
oh and a NMF would be nice
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Posted: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 02:23 PM UTC

Quoted Text

We're not expecting. We're just hoping!

But the wet dream would be that you have dug up a real secret, like a colour photo of a "bomber assembly ship" P 47 in Ronald McDonaldish colours.

But that might just be too much to hope for.
Tony


A P47 in Ronald Mc Donald colors is almost more than the minds eye can handle. Maybe something in a lovely OD and gray then

Taylor
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 06:43 AM UTC
Bad News..
All the P-47 Formation Planes I found were Razorbacks
Still undecided on the final scheme, but it certainly wont be Ronald MacDonald colours

I've been working on the cockpit recently.
The instrument panel comes in three parts.

I tried a few methods of painting it and couldnt get a finish I was happy with, so I ended up using the two decals from the next release decal sheet.
About half way through painting the cockpit detail and once the trim tabs/throttle quadrant are done I will weather it all. I'll be adding a set of Eduard seat belts as well.
Heres how the various parts look at the moment.


A close up of the instrument panel.
I filled the dials with Klear. You can see the reflection of my light sources in the instrument faces which makes them look a bit strange.


Nige
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 03:37 PM UTC
You do some really great work. That's coming along really nice and I look forward to seeing more progress.

Texas
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 10:06 PM UTC
Looking good Nigel. I almost wish I was 68,75 mm tall

Tony
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Posted: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 09:57 AM UTC
Excellant work as usual Nige.

Did you paint the dials or just paint them white. Either way is outstanding

Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 10:22 PM UTC
Thanks for the comments guys
No progress to show as I've been concentrating on the P-47M
The instruments are decals and then I filled the bezels with Klear.
Once the cockpit is finished I'll post some more pics.
Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 10:32 AM UTC
Cockpits finished.
I'll probably give the seatbelts a wash to blend them in a bit but thats about it.






After this its onto the engine!

Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 11:23 AM UTC
That appears really well Nigel. I like your style, the cockpit looks nice and grubby.
Being run from fields and forward bases I presume they are going to get really dirty.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 12:00 PM UTC
Wow Nige Very Very Nice.

Am i right in saying that no PE was used Just the AM resin in your first message correct?

Either way very nice work and cannot wait to see the engine

Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 10:46 PM UTC
Thanks guys.
JP.
In almost all the footage you see of 8th AF bases in East Anglia mud is a common factor, so I figured its only natural that it would find its way into the cockpit floors.
I know from investigating these old airfields myself that the stuff gets everywhere!
Paul.
The only AM is the Eduard seatbelts. Everything else is OOB. I just added some wiring at the back of the panel.
Nige
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 02:43 PM UTC
Onto the engine.
Heres page 1 of the engine assembly instructions.

Starting with the top section, (section 2), this deals with assembling the two banks of cylinders.
I noticed during a dry run, that with the cylinders in their normal position,( looking straight on at the engine and counting clockwise, cylinder #5 should be straight down) the mounting ring didnt line up, and was sitting with the left side lower than the right.
So, I did some more dry fitting,,,,,,,,,a lot more dry fitting.................. and got the basic engine assembly to this stage.

What Ive found is that to have everything assembled so it will fit the mounting ring and consequently the cowling, the cylinders are off by about half a cylinders width. In other words, the whole bank of cylinders is turned to the right.


I checked on a built example and that had the same issue.

This is a photo of the engine from Ted Taylor who built the SAM Magazine example last year.
The bottom cylinder should be pointing straight down.



So, Im pretty satisfied that its not just something I've done wrong and that its actually an issue with the kit, I can take the dry run apart and start working on it. To fix it would probably mean cutting both front and back mounting rings. It might be something doable. but I think I'm going to live with it as I have no plans to display this with any of the cowling panels removed.
It just shows how important it is to dry run and test fit!
A job for another day,,I'm shattered.
Nige
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 12:00 AM UTC
I couldnt resist seeing how it would look like in situ.

The cowling in front is 1:48th

Hmmm,,,I think I'm going to have to have a big tidy up of the bench before I get to the wings stage
Nige
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 12:04 AM UTC
Wow Nige that thing looks like a whole model onto itself.

Are you going to run some wires to the cylinders when the time comes? From the pics it doesn't look like it would be that bad. ( famous last words there).

One other thing I noticed is. The pushrods look like they are polished silver in the referance pic. In the example of the models built engine and on my directions it calls for you to paint them black. Looks like you went with silver as well. Was just another thing I was scratching my head over because I am getting ready to start my engine as well.

Paul
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 12:29 AM UTC
Yes its a model in itself!
Theres a lot of tubing that I didnt install in the dry run too. You also get a whole section, oil tank etc which wont be seen on my model but I'm going to build anyway.
I just dont fancy cutting any panels away.
I have drilled the holes ready for the ignition wiring
I'm going to be painting the pushrods gloss black. That would match the factory photos in my P+W book.
Nige
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 12:57 PM UTC
Wiring up engines is fun...........................................isn't it?,,,,,,,,,,,,isn't it??


Managed half of it tonight and have decided its enough for today and time for a glass of vino!
Nige
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Posted: Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 12:22 AM UTC
Finished the ignition harness this morning.

Nige