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Ole Missouri/The Jawbone 86th FG Photos
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Posted: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 - 12:24 AM UTC
Chris Brennans entry for the SIG's first group build has produced something really special!
Chris opted to build the Academy 1:48th Bubbletop in the markings of the 86th FG's "Ole Missouri/The Jawbone".
A few weeks into the build, Steven Famuliner was surfing the net and came across the P-47 SIG.
He was very surprised to find that decals were available for "Ole Missouri/The Jawbone" as this was the P-47 flown by his father!

Steven has very kindly uploaded some of his fathers photos and here they are.





Fabulous photos and I'm sure you will join me in thanking Steven for uploading them. I'm honoured to be able to show them.

Steven has also related the story of how "Ole Missouri/The Jawbone" came to recieve its unusual double name.

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When i was a kid, he told me he named his plane "the jawbone" after the biblical story of Samson taking the jawbone of an ass, & slaying many of his enemies with it. he said it was a fitting name for a warplane. as for 'ole missouri, he grew up on a farm in Moberly, Missouri, & he liked mules.



Some more technical information that has come to light from Steven and also from viewing the photos.

Steven tells us his father flew with the 525th FS 86th FG, "The Jawbone" is often incorrectly listed as being a 527th FS aircraft.
Just visible on the starboard cowling is the 525th FS insignia.

Due to the unique red/white striped empennage of the 86th's P-47's, the serial number was overpainted and until now "Ole Missouri's" has been unknown.
The photos show the serial number painted on the starboard side forward of the squadron markings. "33559".
The full serial number is 44-33559, which tells us that "The Jawbone/Ole Missouri" was from the D-30-RA batch.

Steven, many thanks for sending these photographs.

Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 11:59 PM UTC

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Fabulous photos and I'm sure you will join me in thanking Steven for uploading them. I'm honoured to be able to show them.




..they sure are & yes we do ! another scoop for the P-47 SIG ..

As far as I can tell they don't even appear in this lovely (albeit pricey!) volume from Eagle Editions featuring this machine on the jacket....there are other shots of it here though. According to the book 'ole Missouri' featured in a late-1945 publicity feature when based in Germany & was flown by at least four different pilots during this period.
Shame that EE don't seem to have done their usual decal sheet-book tie-in on the 86th ...

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Posted: Friday, August 14, 2009 - 12:30 PM UTC
Gents,

Thanks for the compliments on the book. Getting the old / bold guys in my dad's 86th FG Association to part with enough photos to make the book doable was a years-long project. I had access to over 800 photos and winnowed it down to approximately 140 of the best. The vast majority have never before been seen in print; that's why Jerry and Judy at EE were so eager to do it. Steve's dad's AC "Jawbone" was one of the few exceptions as it was so "purty". That's why a bunch of his squadron mates hit him up with, "Hey, can I borrow your plane?"
As to pricey? Maybe over there in Blighty but I've only seen one royalty check since its publication. "Slow sales" is also the reason there have been no decal sheets from EE. The research material necessary is in my possession and on file with EE. But I'm surprised nobody else has taken it on (either). The empennage would be best painted but the buzz and serial numbers, squadron and group markings and all that lovely artwork cries out for decal sheets in all three scales.
I have decided to modify my approach to building. I used to have the old Revell 32nd scale doggie-doggie Bolt and then, of course, when Hasegawa came out with theirs in 32 (around the same time my book hit the shelves), I bought three, one of which is well along with all three cowls and engines done up very nicely. Then, of course, Trumpy came out with their D-30 with the integrally molded dorsal strake and that became the bee's knees.
So, all the Hasegawas are now give-aways and I have decided to limit myself to one 32nd scale kit only (of any given A/C type), with succesive versions of the same A/C in 48th. Brilliant, no? That was my justification, then, for shelling out shekels for the Trumpy Swordfish I, to be done in the hi-vis prewar markings (even though I have Tamiya's kit of same). With a 17" wingspan it's mucho impressive. Anyway, any help I can provide on the 86th or T-bolts or A-36s in general, feel free to shoot me a line any time...

P.S. Nige, give up the cigarettes my man; they stunt your growth, you'll never make it past 25, and they cause you to go blind... methinks maybe that last is caused by something else. I'll look it up and get back to you.

Hasta la pasta and check six, Steve
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Posted: Monday, August 17, 2009 - 01:06 AM UTC
Hi Steve.
Glad you found your way here

Well,I made it past 25,,(WAY past 25), and I havent had a ciggie for almost 2 years!, However, since I stopped smoking I reckon my legs are now an inch shorter, so there goes that theory.LOL!

Enjoy the SIG, and we know where to look if anybody has any 86th FG questions

Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 07:15 AM UTC

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I've only seen one royalty check since its publication. "Slow sales" is also the reason there have been no decal sheets from EE.



.. Hi Steve

sorry to hear that your super book doesn't appear to have enjoyed the sales it merits. Sad to say the 'slow sales' spiel is one I've heard from Eagle Editions as well ...I guess that's a risk when going with a very small independent publisher... amazing how they keep going really
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Posted: Friday, July 09, 2010 - 11:31 AM UTC
Those are some GREAT photos, Nigel. I loved hearing the story of how Ole Missouri/The Jawbone got its name. I never knew that. Thanks for sharing that AND the photos.

Steve, I bought your book when it was released, and it's a beauty. I'm surprised by slow sales as there isn't much out there book wise on 12th Air Force P-47 or any 12th Air Force Groups for that matter. That's the reason I thought that people would buy this book.
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Posted: Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 01:56 PM UTC
Steve,

Great book, and I'm glad that someone else is doing 12th AF Jug stuff. I've just started on my next book for Osprey's Combat Aircraft series and it specifically focuses on 12th AF P-47 units. I've got a few original photos of the 86th and of course plenty operational reports and unit histories, but I'm finding that photos in particular are extremely scarce for the 86th.

Got any helpful hints?

Thanks!

Jon
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2011 - 04:07 PM UTC
Hi Steve,

I had the privilege of having a former 86th FG pilot as a physics teacher in college. I actually went to high school with his daughter, then later met him. His name was Richard Ives. As a young plastic modeler, I tried to talk to him about his experiences several times, but he was too humble to talk much about himself. He said he remembered flying A/C #13 because the other pilots were superstitious and would not fly it. If memory serves, that number was assigned to the 525th. Do you have any information on him?

Thank you.