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VP 1649 Desert Rat Bust wip
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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 12:43 PM UTC
My other project ATM is the old Verlinden "V for Victory British Desert Rat WWII" bust.

i was never a fan till i saw one painted on the kitmaker galleries. At South Shields model show earlier this year i picked it up at a super bargain price....

after looking over the kit i decided the face was way too lined and there was a bit too much of a starved look about him. also his eybrows looked like yhey had been plucked into pencil thin lines.... ?

so out with the knife and some putty



i also added the top of his collar bone as the two big sinews? went down to a point......

so after some umming and ahhing i decided to try and paint him as a middle aged man who's been in north africa for some tim... his skin will be quite tanned ........ i hope

i have used alot of underpainting to try and give some depth to his flesh, about 1/4 of the way to getting the head finished



any crits comments or help welcome

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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 08:46 PM UTC
Jeez you really brought this guy to life with those eyes..beautiful. Are you going to go over the underapinting with oils now?
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 12:28 AM UTC
I see what you mean with the starved, wrinkled look. I can't help thinking he looks like Darth Sidious.

But, you have painted him very well with incredible realism.

Chas
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 07:55 AM UTC
Grant... Cheers! i am overpainting in acrylics, lots of very thin layers UHHH!

Chas... Thats who he reminds me of ( but with a tan obviously )

Update....

the mid laid down ( ish )



and a highlight added ( assembled for context, his gaze is not quite in line with the V .... a gesture i am fond of LOL )



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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 07:52 AM UTC
Progressssss........

started to add hair to his brows and chest....... will need to do the arm next

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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 09:43 AM UTC
Looks like another nice looking bust by yourself mate, i like the idea of the underpainting which does add to the effect. thats some set of teeth he has, bet he has to floss with a tow rope .

look forward to seeing more of this one.

Steve
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Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 12:00 AM UTC
I'm looking forward to how you paint and weather the helmet. I'm working on a couple of 1:35 British helmets myself... and failing.

Chas
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Posted: Friday, May 15, 2009 - 11:38 AM UTC
Steve ... cheers mate and yeah i should have re-sculpted those teeth, but hey

Chas .... if it'll help at all i'll break the helmet work down into a few more steps

update.............

the arm is about finished, i may add a few really light hairs and some vein work on the ball of the thumb, but i might be lazy too and just leave as is

the watch was awfull to do but again i'm leaving it alone now.

beard, brows and chest next.

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Posted: Friday, May 15, 2009 - 07:05 PM UTC
Hello mate,....
been reading on the sites and the remarks about the poor blokes dentle work, mate he has never fought in the ring,and this brings up a wee point, if you removed one of his teeth not one of his centre teeth this would draw your eye to the gap, making the remainding the less noticable, kill the black in between them and use a pinkish brown and cream colour the teeth......darker at the roots...out to a pale cream at the ends........

a bloke with teeth missing..Phil..
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Posted: Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 11:17 AM UTC
Hey there mate,
He's looking good so far
love the face I wish I could master acrylics.
Hed look good with the New Zealand sholder flash etc(a little self promotion)

This was one I've wanted to do since he became avaible.
and How come you can churn these guys out so quickly,it takes me for ever.

Can't wait to see him finished.

Chris
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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 05:37 AM UTC
Phil! .... that is a great idea, but i'm too far on with this now and don't have the confidance to start hacking still gotta do a bit more work on the teeth so may tone down a bit more

Chris ... Thank you, i'm not sure what nationality he will be re turn-over of figures... i live on my own and have alot of time on my hands atm, so i get some quality time in

update.......

Have been working on the helmet ( it's too small and i think it might be the wrong shape !



however i'm gonna use it as this is really another painting exercise so ......



( hope thats some help Chas )

next stage on the helmet will be the strap and toneing down the chipped effect

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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 11:52 AM UTC
done the helmet strap.... need to tone the texture on the middle bit but the basics are down... just all the webbing to texture now




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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 12:14 PM UTC
mate...
that helmet looks really good, thanks for posting those steps.....

..Phil..
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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 10:46 PM UTC

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( hope thats some help Chas )


What an understatement!

Mate, that is immensely helpful. Thanks for taking the time to post the step by step photos. Now to try the same thing in 1:35.

One question, what is maskol?

Chas
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 12:40 AM UTC

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Chas Young..........One question, what is maskol?



G'Day Chas, if i may, with Mark's good grace?!

Maskol is an old brand name used by Humbrol for a brew something like P.V.A.
pink/purple in colour, just used as a barrier, being low tack.

Hope this helps.

Paul

P.S. Mark, hope we get to see the completed article first meeting in June? Maybe even this Wednesday?!!!
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 03:46 AM UTC
Phil... no prob

Chas.... What Paul said....

however a cheaper alternative.... Maskol is a latex/ammonia/pigment mix, so art masking fluid is the same and so ( basically ) is liquid latex for mould making, and the stuff for halloween makeup and at a stretch you can use "copydex" which is an old style latex glue, basically if its latex and ammonia it will work ( smells like cat pee )

to remove it i use a piece of "Blu-Tak" .. the stuff for sticking posters up... knead it up and gently rub it over the masking fluid. or a soft pencil eraser...


Paul! ... hello! ... i will bring this fellow to wednesdays meet, but he won't be finished

Mark
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 12:30 PM UTC
wonderfull webbing HUH!

have been painting lots and lots of lines and then painting over them! grrrr...

i understand the desert guys didnt blanco the webbing, just washed and scrubed so it looked almost white.

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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 10:41 PM UTC
Thanks Paul and Mark for the tips.

Great progress on the webbing, the texture looks amazing!

Chas
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:26 PM UTC
you painted all those lines onto the webbing , man you need to get out more or at least visit your doctor for a chat .

Seriously mate that is some very nice work you are doing and your skill with the acrylics is growing and growing, very impressive.

Just a thought mate but are you going to put some dark sweat patches around his armpit areas to simulate the enviroment and heat, i wouldnt of thought the shirt will stay clean or dry for long and im pretty sure they werent issued `Sure roll on` during ww2.


Steve
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Posted: Thursday, May 21, 2009 - 05:06 AM UTC

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Steve Readdie ........you painted all those lines onto the webbing



He,he, wait till you get to see the back-pack!!



Paul
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Posted: Sunday, May 24, 2009 - 05:52 AM UTC
Chas... cheers mate

Steve... Yeah i know! and yes i am going to try sweat stains and salt marks.....

Paul... no shot of the pack yet



Update.........

the main webbing and the pack are about finished, might do a touch more but probably not.

started the shirt based with GW bleached bone ( looks like light sand ) shadows with AV 921 english uniform, i'm going back over the shading now to get smooth transitions and i'll highlight with AV 928 light flesh... then work out how to do sweat stains ... uhhh

:)

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Posted: Sunday, May 24, 2009 - 06:09 AM UTC
This is really something mate, lovely looking contrast on the shirt and the overall colour sceme of the face,helmet,webbing and shirt are great, hard to believe you havent been using acrylics for long.

Steve
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Posted: Sunday, May 24, 2009 - 10:00 PM UTC

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...then work out how to do sweat stains ... uhhh


Ask Phil Walden about that...

Great start with the shirt!

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Posted: Monday, May 25, 2009 - 12:40 PM UTC
Steve... many thanks no-one is more suprised than me ....

Chas... i might yet


minor update..........

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Posted: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 02:53 PM UTC
great job really amazing

simon