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Twilight 2000 Campaign
GunTruck
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 04:54 AM UTC
Way to go Keenan - thanks!

See - even subs got some action in T2K!

Gunnie
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 05:14 PM UTC
Our thoughts are will be with you and your wife Gunnie...

Take all the time you need- this will all be here when you get back!

Jim/ Jaster
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 08:06 PM UTC
Here's hoping your wife gets well soon.
GunTruck
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 03:43 AM UTC
Thanks Guys!

Gunnie
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 06:30 AM UTC
So we can do any vehicle that happnes to pertain to T2? Not just armor now? Hmmmmm..............
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 07:23 AM UTC

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So we can do any vehicle that happnes to pertain to T2? Not just armor now? Hmmmmm..............



Yeah Zach - an Apache gunship has your name all over it!

Gunnie
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 01:30 AM UTC
Oooh! Cool! There's an idea for the Typhoon SSBN! Typhoon SSGN with PzH 2000 turrets Mwuhahahahahahaha!

But all kidding aside, I'm getting kinda, uh, "embarrased" now, seeing all you guys building "less exotic" equipment. Even Sabot is rethinking of entering his Sgt. York mod. Will I be the only one building "hi-tech" equipment? Kinda embarassing, since it would seem I'd be going against the "spirit" of the campaign as it would appear I've over-killed.
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 02:09 AM UTC
Don't get down Gennady...it may come to pass that others will join into the "extreem rebuilding" of vehicles. I am not posting anything so it will be a surprise...to me the most. The "Oktober Revolution Tank Factory" has had to remodel...ie, I have had to deal with asbestos pipe insulation and cleaing/painting a new carpenter/wood room. I bought a band/disc sander to help me work with resin kits, but needed a new room/workbench for it...and to work on other "house projects", right dear? (wink wink, nudge, nudge)

SO, I do nto want to say that I will be producing, say, a reworked, upgunned BMP-1 unless I think I can get away with it.
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 12:15 PM UTC
BTW Jacques, I dunno if you read the thread at AFV Forum back at TankNet, but it seems the Swedes have an interesting upgrade for the BMP-1's 73mm gun. IIRC, it makes use of a newer type of ammunition.

Thanks also for the confidence boost hehe. Will look forward to what your Oktyabr Faktory will produce. As of now, all work at the Iron and Steel Works (Armor Div) is concentrated on my Barbarossa campaign commitments - the 2 T-26s - with the original manager of the plant dragged out by the NKVD for "counter-revolutionary sabotage" and shot by firing squad hehe
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2003 - 02:43 AM UTC
Sheesh Gennady, tough crowd at your plant...I just got the local NKVD "gifts" of vodka...they are quite happy with me!

progress on the "factory addition" goes well...maybe I can start to build models again by next week!
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2003 - 08:43 AM UTC
I'd do something more creative, but I don't have much in the way of scratchbuilding skills or I'd try my hand at a LAV-75. I think I'm going to use the Twilight campaign as an excuse to build some experimental or less successful equipment such as Sgt York, M60A2, M551 Sheridan etc, depends on access and time. I've ordered a LAV-25 which will be my starting point (doesn't fall into the above catagory but I finally found a LAV-25). I also may do a Turbo "Attack" Thrush or maybe one of those odd Australian ag planes that was in MM Beyond Thunder Dome. I've also got my eye on the Tamiya PBR and Pink Panther SAS Land Rover, I think either could be easily modified with accessaries and a modern weapons set.
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 01:29 PM UTC
Okay, I started building last night but I haven't painted anything so I'm still legal. Here is the story line: Guys in Gas City, Indiana fire up the Sherman Jumbo that was parked on the court house square since 1956 and welding on some serious applique armor and up gunned the bad boy, using the wreckage of an M60A3 from the Marion, Indiana armoury. Name of the the tank: "The Bastard."

That is what this campaign is all about, guys. Run with it. Anyone that has played the game will know what I mean...

Shaun
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 02:43 PM UTC
Sounds great Keenan!!!

The STORY that drives the build is as much fun as the build itself in this Campaign!
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2003 - 12:15 AM UTC
With the large amount of interest and work being done on this campaign already, and since it has already had its' "soft" start- is it OK if we post our "logs" here, or would it be better if we opened the T2K Campaign officially and had them posted in the Campaign area?

Gunnie- whatcha think??
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2003 - 03:19 AM UTC

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With the large amount of interest and work being done on this campaign already, and since it has already had its' "soft" start- is it OK if we post our "logs" here, or would it be better if we opened the T2K Campaign officially and had them posted in the Campaign area?

Gunnie- whatcha think??



If I had the "power" Jas' I'd open up the Campaign Folder early - but alas - I do not. The official creation date for the Folder and Journals is still Oktober 1st. Posting the storylines and such here in this thread would be great - but then you'd have to repost the scenario in your Journal when it is created by Jim. A simple cut-&-paste operation, but easy to do. If you guys want to begin posting storylines here, that's fine with me.

Might get a little confusing for those not interested - but they can go to other topics on the site. Might be fun for you guys itching to get going!

Gunnie

(P.S. - GIB - I haven't ruled out going "high-tech" with another entry either. I only mentioned "one" vehicle that I'm planning on entering )
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2003 - 03:16 PM UTC
OK Gunnie- with your permission I'll start posting my logs...
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And so it starts...

T2K early start phase has begun here.

A key element of my dio is a Ford F150 "technical". I'm using the AMT/Ert 1/32 "Monster Truck" snap kit as a basis for this one. I picked it because there is a serious shortage of civilian 1/35 vehicles.

The problems are going to be pretty daunting- and I am probably WAY over my head on this one but...

FIRST PROBLEM - The bugger scales out pretty accurately at 1/32 scale, which is about 10% too damned big!! I thought looooong and hard about leaving it as is, but 10% is a pretty large difference so...out comes the razor saw!

I am slicing .20" out of the width and a total of about .50" from the length (.25" from the bed and the balance from the roof and hood- the roof & hood will be the REALLY bad parts to splice back together- curved surfaces!!). This process has started, I just hope it doesn't create a pile of royal blue scrap plastic!

Once the slicing and dicing is done I still have a TON to do to the truck. It has no interior, no bed, no frame or underbody, well the list goes on!

What is planned at the other end of the project is a 1/35 Ford F-150 Gun Truck in a dio with a TBD US military vehicle.

More to come as it develops.

Back to the razor saw!!!!

Jim/ Jaster

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August 24, 2003

Slicing and dicing continues. A few more calculations have been made. After more calculations it seems that .6" needs to come from the O/A length and .1" from the height. This is approaching the “PILE of JUNK” stage. The F-150 is dissolving into a bunch of pieces that need to be put back together. Its’ starting to be like putting Humpty-Dumpty back together again- only 10% smaller.

I’m hoping that the thing will go back together with some reasonable degree of “squareness”. I realize it will consume massive amounts of putty to “blend” it all, especially the hood and roof. Then I can start on the pickup bed/box, the vehicle interior, some faked in frame/ suspension components and so on.

I’m opting for a EASY solution to wheels & tires- an old set of either Ital or Esci Hummer wheels and tires. I figure in the scenario presented that there is a reasonable likelyhood that LARGE aftermarket wheels and tires would show up on this type of vehicle.

I went to the Ford dealer and took 20-30 shots of F-150s for reference. Salesman came out to see what I was doing...I said I was building a scale model of an F150- He instantly responded that “Oh you’re just taking pictures then- OK.”. I got the distinct impression he was either familiar with the hobby/ obsession or had encountered a nut like myself before!

Back to the saw...

More to come.

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The cutting is done. Once a one-piece body- now an eight piece puzzle. I beveled the outer edges so the putty will have somewhere to go, did my best to clean up the edges and now I am faced with re-assembling the thing! My initial thought is to use sheet styrene to align the inner surfaces and just glue the pig back together. Then putty it up...except I still have .1" to take out of the height!

So far so good- no major problems, but really all I have done is cut the crap out of a kit in HOPES of making it go back together again- only 10% smaller!

I have some notes on the F-150 mods...as well as the second vehicle and the “story” of the diorama. Now all I need is TIME and lots of it! Whenever the deadline is is TOO SOON! But, this is a mess, ‘er project of my own choosing!

Off to bed now...
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Posted: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 10:14 AM UTC
Not to be rude or anything Jaster but with 1/32 you really cant tell the difference compared to 1/35 when you are talking about vehicles. Its just one of the optical illusion things they can play out without having to cut your truck up to shreds lol.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 04:12 PM UTC
Zach...

I suspect you're right! But 10%, which equated to .6" O/A (which was closer to an inch than I liked) seemed like TOO much to ignore.

AND I have completed the SLICING! So the re-construction has begun. I guess I can chalk it up to LEARNING if nothing else!

I began to glue the pig together this evening, We shall see!

Jim/ Jaster
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 02:13 PM UTC
Lol you did the slicing before your read my post didnt you? Oh well I tried hehe. Cant wait to see your project Jaster. #:-)
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 03:27 PM UTC
Yup...slicing was already done!

The re-assembly is going OK so far. Each side is done. They aren't quite as square as I hoped but all in all it is going pretty good! I used pieces of sheet styrene to align the various pieces and provide some strength to the joints.

I have to join the L & R pieces and then the PUTTY-FEST begins!

I have some digital pics of the early slicing...it is gonna be tough to keep a good photo journal without a digital camera. Maybe I'll dig out my wifes 35mm abd see if it can deal with some close-ups.

More as it develops!



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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2003 - 06:41 PM UTC
So.....what is everybody up to? Haven't had much activity lately, just wondering what everyone is up to? I haven't had much time lately, school just started for me, but once I get "settled" I am going to get back to work on my HEMTT Gun truck!

-Chris
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:56 PM UTC
The Sherman Jumbo has been towed to Joe's Garage and seriously upgunned with a 105mm. The guys finished welding the extra spaced armor to the turret yesterday.

Serious Q: When does the campaign officially start? With everyone starting early on the conversions I forget when we are allowed to start painting... Hee Hee

Shaun
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Posted: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 06:58 AM UTC
Shaun,

The offical start date is October 1st.

Can't wait to see your "Jumbo" Sherman!

This capaign is sooo cool!

-Chris :-)
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Posted: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 01:26 PM UTC
I've got a t-55 gettin' some racks & Armor welded on it. I'm going to convert a LAV_AT to a recovery LAV as well.....
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Posted: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 04:56 AM UTC
Picture of the "Super Jumbo" Sherman turret conversion in my gallery. I am making the spaced armor look raggedy on purpose. These guys obviously aren't good with a torch and a welder...

Shaun