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Spoilt For Choice....
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 09:56 AM UTC
With my set of 1:48th P-47M's finished and the VFS build ongoing, I'm trying to decide what to build for the MIGHTY EIGHTH CAMPAIGN

I've narrowed it down to three. 2 Razorbacks and an M.
Here, in no particular order, are the candidates.

Paul Congers "Hollywood High Hatter"

So far each of my 1:48th Razorbacks has gone into the museum at Halesworth, and I'd like to do one from each squadron of the 56th to display alongside the M's at shows and at home.
This would be a good start,nice artwork and that red spinner adds a certain something.

"Tony" of the 5th ERS.

I've always loved this photo. "Tony" would be chance to do a really battered war weary 'bolt. Red white and blue bands on the cowling, yellow bands on the tail and wings, painted out invasion stripes,NMF canopy and the unusual dinghy and flare load being carried would make for something very different.

Leo Butistes "Josephine My Flying Machine"

Eli Raphael at Zotz decals kindly sent me the decals for this P-47M.
Ocean Grey and Dark Green camouflage with red nose and yellow codes with a yellow rudder. One of my favourite 56th FG colour schemes and great noseart too!

What do you think?,,I can't decide

Nige
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 10:11 AM UTC
"Tony" gets my vote - something more different than usual.

Andy
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 10:27 AM UTC
I have decals for "Tony" in my stash and that's on my to do list as well.

Second choice would be the last one mentioned

hope this helps
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 10:58 AM UTC
Tony gets my vote as well. I just love seeing battered aircraft.
Andy
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 02:09 PM UTC
I just have to go with "Josephine", as Leo was a friend of mine.
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 02:29 PM UTC
Definatly Tony
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 04:37 PM UTC
I would have to lean toward "Tony" as well.. But Josephine would be a very close second..In a photo finish of course. The chance for a Red White and Blue banding on the cowling. Plus the yellow striping would make a very colorful subject. One tha tis to hard ot resist.

Besides you said it yourself. Your collection of M's are complete..........( for now)

Paul
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Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 - 01:34 AM UTC
Thanks for the input guys.
"Tony" it is then
Nige
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Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 - 03:16 AM UTC
Good choice, Nige! Wayne Fox, who flew with my dad in B-24s and then transferred to the 5th ERS at Boxted and then Halesworth probably flew this plane, along with the others. He'd be smiling down from heaven, now...

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Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 - 08:33 AM UTC
Excellent choice, Nige! Looking forward (as always) to seeing your work. Where do you plan on getting the various "appendages" hung on the wing pylons? I believe Loon Models makes some of the stuff.
On another note are you sure of the paint scheme for Leo Butiste's "Josephine My Flying Machine"? Looks more like the 2-tone blues than Ocean Gray and Dark Green.....at least to my pathetic eyes it does!

Best
John
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Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 - 08:43 AM UTC
Hi John:

Leo's airplane was definately gray/green. I had the chance to look at several color photos of the airplane when I met Leo for the first time at the P-47 Pilots Assoc. reunion in 1997.
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Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 - 09:08 AM UTC
Hi John.
I already have the Loon model dinghy packs all good to go


Decals will be from the Eagle Strike set.


Apart from the usual extra bits of extra wiring the only other goodies I'll be using are some Eduard seatbelts and canopy masks. The kit will be the Tamiya Razorback.

There is a cowling section and a horizontal stabiliser from a 5th ERS P-47 in the museum at Bungay. I'll be going there on Tuesday to check up on a few details for the build

Regarding Leo Butistes P-47M, as Jim has already confirmed,its Ocean Grey and Dark Green over NMF undersides.
A couple of small details visible in the photo,.
The area of the flap revealed when they are in the down position appears to be bare metal, which means the aircraft was painted with the flaps in the up position. The bare metal curve under the cockpit reveals that the canopy was closed when the paint was applied as well.

Last snippet of information, there is one of Leo's uniforms on display at the museum at Halesworth.

Nige
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Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 - 09:55 AM UTC
Thanks Nige and Jim!
I'll buy into the Gray/Green scheme, especially behind the cowl (which looks Ocean Gray), but what about the most definite light blue colors on the fuselage and upper wing? Perhaps it's just one color photo that as always tends to mislead? Were there any other Gray/Green M's or just Buttiste's.......oh, and Schilling's?!

Those Loon resin bits look excellent! Again.......looking forward to seeing your progress, Nige!

Best.....
John
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Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 - 11:28 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Thanks Nige and Jim!
I'll buy into the Gray/Green scheme, especially behind the cowl (which looks Ocean Gray), but what about the most definite light blue colors on the fuselage and upper wing? Perhaps it's just one color photo that as always tends to mislead? Were there any other Gray/Green M's or just Buttiste's.......oh, and Schilling's?!

Best.....
John



Hi John.
Its the lighting/film type/exposure etc that makes the greys look blue in the first photo.
You can see the Ocean Grey around the empennage area of LM-X in this photo.


Basic colours for each squadrons P-47M's were the same.
61st FS. Flat Black.
62nd FS Ocean Grey/ RAF Dark Green
63rd FS Two shades of blue, the exact type unknown.

Many aircraft show individual differences, coloured canopy frame, borders around the squadron codes etc, but the basic colours were the same for each aircraft in the squadron.

Nige
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Posted: Monday, August 31, 2009 - 05:00 PM UTC
Nige, not sure if you've seen these but here are a few to wet your "Tony" whistle!!

Enjoy!
John







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Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 06:04 AM UTC
Thanks John.
I have seen these photos before
While I was at Halesworth I spent some time looking through the photo albums and found some nice unpublished ones of "Tony".
I'll be aiming to depict "Tony" as it looks in the B+W photo I first posted.
Note the Malcolm Hood fitted to 5F-A in the later photos
Nige