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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2011 - 07:08 AM UTC
Thanks Casper. I got too enthusiatic at getting info and forgot this was primarily tricks, thanks again for the help.
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Will
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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2011 - 06:17 AM UTC
Hi Will,
Although cars aren't my area of interest - I did a quick hunt of some online brochures and all the 35' ads show spoked wheels and all the 36' ads show steel:
http://oldcarbrochures.org/index.php/NA/Ford/1935_Ford/1935_Ford_Brochure
http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Ford/1936_Ford/1936_Ford_Brochure/1936%20Ford-02.html
So it appears ALL the 36' product range got the solids.
HTH.
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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2011 - 04:49 AM UTC
Thank you Casper! The reference is great and I did indeed mean dual wheels.
I have one more and probably final question. Was the 1936 Ford Cabriolet Convertible the first Ford model to use steel disc wheels ( not brakes) to replace the spoked wheels? I have tried to find a definitive answer for this but after weeks of searching at the library and online it is the best year guesstimate I have..
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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2011 - 03:54 AM UTC
Yeah, your right Casper...

I should read things more clearly

I went to my LHS today and had a hard time leaving the GAZ's alone... I'm hooked...
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 11:40 PM UTC
Brian - I think you have got a bit mixed-up as Will is referring to single/dual wheel not single/dual axle.
Will - here's a link that expands on what body style was available with various options. While far from complete it's a good basis.
http://www.fmaatc.org/table.html
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 09:50 PM UTC
I beg to differ...

I have seen long and short one axle, as well as long and short double-axle. I think it was just a matter of choice.
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 03:17 AM UTC
I believe I have stumbled across The Answer. The Ford Model AA was offered with two wheel bases. The short WB 131.5 inch and the long WB 157 inch.
The short WB "appears" to be single wheeled rear axle ,light delivery trucks, panel trucks etcetera. The long WB was offered for heavier duty trucks, dump trucks, stake body etcetera and "appears" to be dual wheeled rear axle.
Thanks again for the assistance.

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Will
Oh great! Now I'm hooked on modelling Models A, AA,B and BB, and 18s. Sigh!
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 03:12 AM UTC
Thanks Casper! Appreciate the start... makes you want to roll up the sleeves and get to work!
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 01:04 AM UTC
Brian,
Here's a couple of links to get you started (GAZ-AA):
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/galleries/trucks/GAZ_AA.htm
http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/auto/rus/gaz-aa/index.htm
http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/auto/rus/pmg-1/index.htm
http://svsm.org/gallery/Gaz-AA
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/galleries/trucks/GAZ_AAA.htm
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/galleries/trucks/GAZ_MM.htm
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/galleries/trucks/GAZ_410.htm
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/galleries/trucks/GAZ_44.htm
Should be something of interest in that lot , but still lots more info/links available.
Enjoy
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 07:47 PM UTC
Thank you Casper. Looking forward to another opinion on the dual rear wheels on the Ford. What you suggest seems logical to me but then logic doesn't always prevail. Thanks again.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 07:15 PM UTC
Thanks for your replies and help.
Here is the site I use for GAZ info
http://www.o5m6.de/index.html
It is called Engines of the Red Army and just newly added is an site for
Engines of the Wehrmacht. Both deal with armour but under the sections listed there are Russian or German trucks and foreign trucks. The author is a former military modeler who is also a commercial illustrator. He has come back to only the illustrator part but seems to enjoy it
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 04:34 PM UTC

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If you need better drawings/plans of the chassis (in fact the entire vehicle) look for GAZ AA-AAA (I have heaps of info/links on this vehicle just yell and it shall be supplied).



AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH... (I'm yelling... )
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 11:33 AM UTC
Will,
In regards to the rear dual wheels (working from a fading memory here - still looking for the correct book ) - dual wheels were available as an option on the Ford lighter models, 1 & 1.5t, but fitted standard on the B's. Will continue shuffling through my books and find a proper answer.
For an early 30's vehicle I would assume single rear wheels to be more common (USA) - the GAZ AA was expected to traverse far rougher terrain and overloading was to be expected so dual rear wheels were fitted as standard
Anywho, here's a couple more links:
http://www.netclassics.com/truck/aa-truck.html
http://public.fotki.com/mjcole/trucks/aa_tanker/
If you need better drawings/plans of the chassis (in fact the entire vehicle) look for GAZ AA-AAA (I have heaps of info/links on this vehicle just yell and it shall be supplied).
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 03:44 AM UTC
A final question.
Many sources suggest looking at the GAZ AA for reference to the Ford Model AA. My question. I have seen many photos that "appear" to show the rear wheel set on the Ford Model AA truck as single wheeled. It is difficult fom the available pictures to determine if that is true
The GAZ AA sources consistently show dual wheeled rear wheel sets.
Did the Ford Model AA also have rear dual wheels? I suspect it is so but I'd like someone else's opinion.
Thanks again for the help.
Cheers from the Heart of North America
Will
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 09:03 PM UTC
Thank you Casper and Brian. VERY much appreciated
The many sites I visited and books viewed yielded great stories of the history of the vehicle but NO dimensions. So thanks again.
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Will
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 05:05 PM UTC
Casper those are great references!! Makes me want to build one...
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 12:08 PM UTC
http://public.fotki.com/modeltrucks25thscale/model_magazine_articles/scale_auto_enthousiast/sae_1990-1994/sae_1992_12__december/
http://public.fotki.com/modeltrucks25thscale/model_magazine_articles/scale_auto_enthousiast/sae_1990-1994/sae_1993_04__april/
HTH
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 06:05 AM UTC
I thought this one had some merit!

http://www.fordgarage.com/
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 05:33 AM UTC
I have been unsuccesful in trying to find the wheelbase dimension for a 1932 Model B Ford Pick-up/ Can anyone point me to a source for 1930's trucks basic dimensions? Thanks.

Cheers from the Hert of the Continent
Will