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56th FG Zemkes Wolfpack
The Outstanding P-47 Fighter Group Of WW2.
Questions on 56th FG P-47M's
MikeMx
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Posted: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 11:32 PM UTC
In addition to my P-47D Razorback, I have 2 P-47M Thunderbolts (Revell 1/72) which I'm also working on at the moment.

They will be Capt Gladych's 'Pengie V' of the 61st FS, coded HV M and Capt McBath's 'Shoot, You're Faded' of the 63rd FS, coded UN F.

My questions again concern ordnance. In the kits you get a pair of 138 (150) gallon tanks that look like the ones from a P-38 and 10 HVAR rockets.

So far I've not found any pics of a P-47M carrying either of these. I've been looking up the missions (mostly Ramrods), so I'm thinking the drop tanks are the more feasible of the 2 things.

Can anyone tell me if they ever carried the HAVR's in action or the 138/150 gal drop tanks? If not I can leave them all off or maybe even use 75 or 108 gal tanks under the wings from other kits.

thanks
Mike
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 05:30 AM UTC
Hi Mike.

56thFG never used HVAR rockets and likewise the "teardrop" P-38 style tanks.

75gal and 108g tanks weren't used by the M's either.
M's carried 150g flat tanks and the 200g flat tank which was developed around the time of their arrival with the 56th.
It was intended that the 200g tank under the belly of an M would make it possible to remove the wing pylons and increase performance/reduce drag. ( Another of Col Schillings ideas)

If you havent got any 1:72 flat 150gal tanks then either have empty pylons or none at all. Check your references for individual aircraft but keep in mind that there are photos of the same aircraft both with and without pylons fitted.

Clear as mud?,,,yep,,thought so

Photos I have of "Shoot Your Faded" show wing pylons. Gladych's M was obviously camera shy so it's your choice
FYI, UN-F "Shoot Your Faded/Darling Dottie" was piloted by Walter Flagg.
McBaths P-47M, UN-Mbar was named "Dottie Dee II".

Nige
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 05:41 AM UTC
Hey there Michael. Thought I would show this kit built up, it's one of the same ones you are working on. The blue may not be contrasty enough, not dark enough, but I liked the kit anyhow. Take a look. I put the tanks on it. Take care and look forward to seeing your build! Russell





P.S. You've got to love those experimental paints schemes!!

P.S. again I am not sure if the instructions were correct but I thought I would
put the drop tanks on that came with the kit, I guess it depends on
how accurate you want to be!
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 05:52 AM UTC
Cool,, I want to play as well

Both these are the 1:72 Revell kit.





Things to look out for are the angle of the undercarriage legs is all wrong, they sit too far back. ( Compare it to the Tamiya kit and you'll see), and the engine needs work to get it to fit inside the cowling. ( sand a chunk off the back row of cylinders).
Also, the cowling fins are too far open and make it look like a dinosaur, ( I foget the name). Just cut inbetween the individual fins and squeeze it closed when the cowlings in position. ( Takes longer to type than to actually do).

Belly is a bit fat making it look like a slightly pregnant version of the P-47 and its the wrong prop for an M but for about 4 you can't go wrong


Hope this helps,
Nige
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 09:16 AM UTC
Thanks for the info and pics guys!

I think I'll not bother 'arming' them with anything then , it seems the easiest thing to do. Strange of Revell to put ordnance in that they didn't carry. Still now I've got spare HVAR's for other projects!

I've got the Vallejo RAF paint set so I'm going to try the Dark Med Blue with Azure Blue for the camou and the other one is obviously black.

I've already put together 'Shoot You're Faded' and started painting. I didn't have any bother fitting the cowling over the engine! I've built the Revell D-30 before and it's essentially the same kit and I knew the belly is a bit big and possibly the landing maybe too short! But yes you're right, it's not bad for the price and it looks like a Thunderbolt!

Russell - All my builds end up on our website www.mjwmodels.co.uk check it out and keep checking every month. Something new will appear!

thanks
Mike