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P-47 SIG Group Build 2012 Bolt from the Blue
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Posted: Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 12:08 AM UTC
While the dust is still settling from the "Pin-Up Jugs" Group Build, I thought I might get the ball rolling for the 2012 Group Build. As decided by popular vote, "Bolt from the Blue" will be the 2012 theme, with the only real requirement being that the aircraft is built in ground-attack mode.

Here is an passage from Wikipedia (not the definitive resource, but a good summary) . . .

"GROUND ATTACK ROLE
The P-47 proved to be a formidable fighter-bomber due to its impressive armament, bomb load and ability to survive enemy fire. The Thunderbolt's eight .50 in (12.7 mm) machine guns could inflict severe damage on lightly armored targets. In a ground attack role, the armor-piercing (AP), armor-piercing incendiary (API), and armor-piercing incendiary tracer (APIT) ammunition proved useful in penetrating thin-skinned and lightly armored German vehicles and exploding their fuel tanks, as well as occasionally damaging some types of enemy armored fighting vehicles (AFVs).
The dreaded cry of Achtung! Jabos! (fighter-bombers) regularly erupted from German armored columns as the P-47 flights got to work. While the AP projectiles from the .50 in machine guns could not penetrate the front, side, or rear armor of German tanks, analysis of German AFV armor schemes shows that .50 caliber AP rounds could, under optimum circumstances, penetrate the turret roof and rear engine deck armor of all German AFVs, save the Tiger I and II. Exposed tank crews were obviously vulnerable to air-to-ground fire, but rounds could also penetrate the unprotected radiator grilles of the German tanks, disabling the vehicle, or even starting engine fires. On 28 June 1944, General Heinz Guderian, Inspector General of Panzer Troops reported on experiences in opposing the Allied Landing in Normandy: "... Soon the troops will demand protective armor shields be mounted over the rear decks [of tanks] because of the success of fighter-bomber attacks.”
P-47 pilots frequently carried two 500 lb (227 kg) bombs, using skip bombing techniques for difficult targets (skipping bombs into railroad tunnels to destroy hidden enemy trains was a favorite tactic). Tunnel-busting became a fine art. When pilots spotted a train entering a tunnel, they skipped bombs into both ends to seal the train inside, then bombed the tunnel itself. Near Canisy, France, a locomotive was shredded until it looked like a steel broom. A near bomb miss was sufficient to knock a tank on its side, blow off a track or turret, or cause serious damage to tracks, suspension, and turret mechanisms, frequently causing the vehicle to be abandoned by its crew. The adoption of the triple-tube rocket launcher with M8 high-explosive 4.5 in (110 mm) rockets (with an explosive force similar to a 105 mm artillery shell), significantly increased the P-47's ground attack capability. Late in the war, the P-47 was retrofitted with more powerful 5 in (130 mm) HVAR rockets."

So in summary we have machine guns with various ammo loads, bombs, triple-tube bazooka style rocket launchers, HVAR rockets, and multiple combinations of the above possibilities. Please don't overlook the Nose-Art payload either



As for the time frame, I think an April 1 start and six month run time will give everybody some time to clean up current builds and organise whatever materials are required for this Group Build.

Any comments or suggestions gratefully accepted.

Happy New Year, and here's to a wonderful 2012 for P-47 Heaven.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Monday, January 02, 2012 - 03:47 PM UTC
D, you got me.

With my interest of all things 405th FG I'm going to have to join this one, and this time get it finished!

@:) Now which one of you AM decal options is not NMF
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Posted: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 03:22 PM UTC
Thanks Luciano, great to have you on board with us !

Come on guys, 60+ views and only one reply, let's get this thing rolling !

Cheers, D
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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 03:19 PM UTC
Well over 100 views now so there's obviously interest there. I have made the Campaign page "live" now, you can find the rules and regulations and the all-important "enlist" button HERE .

There's about 10 weeks to the start date, plenty of time to draw together a crack team of P-47's some serious ground-attack duties.

Cheers, D

P.S. Big thanks to Michael Satin for the theme for this build, he suggested this back in early April 2011 !
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Posted: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - 04:59 PM UTC
Sounds great D !

I'll be finished my Razorback by the end of the weekend, so I'm set for a nice "Hell Hawk" I think

Cheers

Paul
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Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 01:55 AM UTC
Damien,

OK, busted! I'm in!

BTW, I notice there's no "unstarted" requirement in the rules. Can we use this as a sort of "get 'er done" campaign? I've got a 1/32 Hasegawa kit that's looking for a good excuse to actually get finished.

Michael
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Posted: Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 09:09 PM UTC

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BTW, I notice there's no "unstarted" requirement in the rules. Can we use this as a sort of "get 'er done" campaign? I've got a 1/32 Hasegawa kit that's looking for a good excuse to actually get finished.



Well I suppose that would depend on how much work has been done on it already Michael. If you have done everything apart from attaching the pitot tube, then I'd have to say no. I'm happy to allow started builds, I hate seeing unfinished 'Bolts languishing in the cupboard when their rightful place is out there on display. Especially a larger scale kit. What stage is the build at ?

Thanks for joining up mate.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 08:04 AM UTC

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BTW, I notice there's no "unstarted" requirement in the rules.



Apart from "get it done", "hanger queen" type campaigns all campaigns are for new builds.

As Damian says, it depends on how much work has actually been done already, but it's an unwritten rule that all campaign builds are "unstarted".

Reggies call as "Bolt From the Blue" Campaign Leader

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Posted: Friday, January 13, 2012 - 08:19 PM UTC
Having recently read "Hell Hawks", I'll definately be doing this campaign with the lovely Tamiya P47D Bubbletop (1/48), some NMF, and this decal set



Cheers

Paul
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Posted: Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 03:19 AM UTC

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Well I suppose that would depend on how much work has been done on it already Michael. If you have done everything apart from attaching the pitot tube, then I'd have to say no. I'm happy to allow started builds, I hate seeing unfinished 'Bolts languishing in the cupboard when their rightful place is out there on display. Especially a larger scale kit. What stage is the build at ?

Thanks for joining up mate.

Cheers, D



Nigel is right, my 1/32 kit is nearly ready for paint and that's way too far started. I'll have to jump in with a Tamiya 1/48 kit. I'll start digging to see what I've got!

Michael
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Posted: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 11:43 PM UTC
Bump time, 7 certifiable JugNuts enlisted already !

My next move is to go through my stash and identify which specific aircraft I want to model. Which kit, which markings, cross-reference with photo's and references and confirm the correct payload. That shouldn't take too long

Anyway, as I said earlier, BUMP !!

Cheers, D
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 11:57 AM UTC
I just signed up. No. 9, so we are almost at the minimum 10.

I have a number of builds in my stash, but I will probably go with the old revell/Monogram offering as this kit has a ton of stores included and I never build a Jug with the rocket/bazooka tubes.

More to follow when I dig out the kit of the stash.
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 04:28 PM UTC

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... but I will probably go with the old revell/Monogram offering



What, no Matchbox to fit the bill, I find that hard to believe !

Great to have you on board Jesper, as you said 1 more and we are official.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 07:12 PM UTC
Another Jug... Why Not!

Time to traul through my P-47 Decal folder
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Posted: Sunday, January 22, 2012 - 02:54 PM UTC
And Mr M. Patman Esq. makes 10, we are official.

Thanks for joining us Mark, I was fairly confident that you might be interested Good luck with the decal trawling, let us know how your options pan out.

Now all we have to do is get your brother involved, and with Darren (Dickerson), Nick (BlueHeeler), PaulP and myself we have a strong Aussie contingent.

Cheers, D

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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 03:06 PM UTC
Well, Damian. I might just dig up an extra Matchbox kit for this campaign as well somewhere in the stash.

Here is the kit I am planning to build. I will not use that camouflage scheme and markings. The hunt has started for some nice JaBo markings. I would like to try my skills at invasion stripes as I have never done that before and what better canvas than a big bad Jug
Still time to decide.....



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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 09:41 AM UTC
After some research I am planning on "Snorting Bull" as the markings for my P-47 JaBo. Still researching though

SNORTING BULL DECAL SET
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Posted: Thursday, January 26, 2012 - 10:33 AM UTC

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After some research I am planning on "Snorting Bull" as the markings for my P-47 JaBo. Still researching though

SNORTING BULL DECAL SET




Inspiration


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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 03:19 PM UTC
Cool picture, Nige. Nice to see it has the bomb racks mounted. I might use some artistic license and mount bazooka tubes as well....
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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 04:16 PM UTC
Jesper, you're stealing my plan ! I have the same kit in the stash, and I've been thumbing through the book by Brett Green "Modelling the P-47 Thunderbolt" seeking inspiration. One of my favorite builds in there is "Snortin Bull" and it is built with both bazooka tubes and bombs.

You can see some pics HERE .

Never mind, we have plenty of time and I have a few options in the decal stash to filter through.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 12:14 PM UTC
Cool pictures in the book. Looking at the pictures in the book of snorting bull I am getting a little bit of performance anxiety with my build.

I bought the decal set yesterday, so I am definitely going for the Snorting bull markings. But that does not mean that there cannot be two snorting bulls in the campaign

Damian, if you are interested in any of the other decals in the set let me know.
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 01:48 PM UTC
The decals arrived today, so I am ready to go when the campaign starts.

Looking forward to get started.



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Posted: Sunday, February 05, 2012 - 11:57 PM UTC
Good evening folks, time for a friendly BUMP to keep this up near the top of the list.

We are up to 11 enlisted now, and there's still plenty of time to join up and get organised for this years SIG mission !


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Damian, if you are interested in any of the other decals in the set let me know.



Thanks Jesper, I appreciate the offer, but the other 2 schemes both need a dorsal fillet and I don't have one in the stash. The leader of the opposition would have a conniption if I came home with ANOTHER P-47 to add to the pile.

I'm sure I can find something to build in the stash without upsetting the harmony at Chateau Reg.

Anybody else with any input, planned builds, ideas etc please post up and keep the thread cooking until the start date.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2012 - 12:55 AM UTC
Inspiration . . . . .




courtesy of 350th FG, 347th FS site HERE . Plenty of great P-47 pics to look at. The photo's of Edwin King's P-47 covered in oil (after 2 cylinders were shot off) are just screaming out for a diorama !

Anybody care to have a go at the payload in their build ? 2 bombs on each wing pylon plus the bazookas, serious stuff ! The drop tank isn't your typical shape either, anybody know if this style is available as an after-market item?

I think I'll probably go with 42-28961 "Screaming Red Ass Commander" for my build, I have the markings on a ZOTZ sheet.



Cheers, D
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Posted: Monday, February 06, 2012 - 03:07 AM UTC
Nice pictures, Damian.

Some good details of the rocket tubes. They might need a little extra detail on my build.

I have never seen those double bomb pylons before. The bombs must have been dropped at the same time to avoid them hitting each other if dropped seperately.

Thanks for sharing