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Waiting for a new steam locomotive in 1/35th
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 12:29 PM UTC
Wolf,

I really like the two tracks, side by side with the aerial spotters up on top of the boxcar ! ! !

I was considering something very similar just this morning: dual tracks with a Panzer on a heavy flatcar in front and a boxcar in back with an air recognition flag draped across the top of the boxcar and partly down the side. I didn't think about putting men on the roof!

Mike
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 01:57 PM UTC

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Man... makes me want to see the movie "Train" with Burt Lancaster!

(and build a locomotive too)



~ Jeff



Hi, All! "THE TRAIN" is an EXCELLENT MOVIE!!! I have a copy of that one on DVD- Real, LIVE STEAM LOCOMOTIVES!!! A REAL LIVE SPITFIRE strafing Burt Lancaster's locomotive! REAL LIVE GERMAN VEHICLES! REAL LIVE A-26 INVADERS BUZZING Lancaster's train later on in the flick! WHAT'S NOT TO LOVE ABOUT THIS FLICK???
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 02:13 PM UTC

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Drawings of the S-160 Consolidation found online:




That's a great plan drawing of the S-160! It just occurred to me this afternoon that about 10 years ago, there was a model train shop out in California that sold brass kits of this locomotive in HO scale. I don't remember the manufacturer's company name, but I believe it was a British Company. I saw their ad in one of the railroad modelling magazines advertising OO/HO British steam locomotives and trains from HORNBY, WREN and BACHMANN-Europe. So, I sent away for some of their catalogs.

I remember that this kit sold for upwards of $300.00, so I said to myself, "Yeah, for $300 bucks, that will have to be a "future definite maybe". I've just relocated to another town, and I'm sure that I still have those catalogs somewhere in my boxes and boxes and boxes of books, old kit instructions, and model catalogs...

If find that catalog, and if this hobby shop is still in business, AND if the kit of the US Army S-160 2-8-0 is still available, ol' M4A1Sherman IS GOING TO BUY ONE!!! Maybe I might even find one for sale on line. If none of that is possible, I may break down and SCRATCH-BUILD/KIT BASH one in HO and/or 1/35... Mike was nice enough to post all those great photos, plus dimensions, so there's some GREAT reference material for a starting point right there!
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 04:13 PM UTC

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Wolf,

I really like the two tracks, side by side with the aerial spotters up on top of the boxcar ! ! !

I was considering something very similar just this morning: dual tracks with a Panzer on a heavy flatcar in front and a boxcar in back with an air recognition flag draped across the top of the boxcar and partly down the side. I didn't think about putting men on the roof!

Mike



Thanks Mike
I’ve been working on this railroad since 2000 13 years can’t seem to finish it. I used the two track system so I can so more rolling stock, plus I am doing a Train Station with a side rail.
Hears another pic of the Boxcar.
Wolf







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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 05:25 PM UTC

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Maybe I might even find one for sale on line.



This HO one is only £325.00...



It's been released by DJH :

http://www.djhmodelloco.co.uk/prodpage.asp?productid=3073

H.P.
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 06:02 PM UTC
Wolf

Did Dragon ever make a six axle super heavy flat car or am I just pulling things from my imagination?

p.s. Your dio is the perfect opportunity to build a Tiger I with the narrow travel tracks installed!
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 06:57 PM UTC

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Did Dragon ever make a six axle super heavy flat car or am I just pulling things from my imagination?



Trumpeter does it

Talking about the S160, here's a nice restored one in Poland :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Tr203_451_MK.JPG

H.P.
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 12:31 AM UTC
The restored one in Poland is very classy looking. We're you able to view the YouTube video I posted of the one in Britian?
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 12:35 AM UTC
As to this or that model being already out there, I am having trouble with an inventory of JUST WHAT IS out there. The six axle flat car being a good example.
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 12:41 AM UTC
On the subject of boxcars I`ve had to go down the scratchbuilding route,i got hold of two of Trumpeter`s flat cars and some Evergreen plastic sheets to build them up.
The trouble is when the Ironside ones come up on E-Bay the price they command is WAY out of my price range !.
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 05:07 AM UTC

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On the subject of boxcars I`ve had to go down the scratchbuilding route,i got hold of two of Trumpeter`s flat cars and some Evergreen plastic sheets to build them up.
The trouble is when the Ironside ones come up on E-Bay the price they command is WAY out of my price range !.



Ditto. I have one on my workbench right now getting converted to a boxcar. Not really that hard of a project. Actually having fun with it though I may make a few mistakes.
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 05:16 AM UTC
Most of the current railroad kits are totally devoid of underbody detail except for an air tank or two. Those of you who know me know that just won't do "for da Chassis Man." Anyone know of a source for Westinghouse Airbrake castings in 1/35th or 1/32nd?

Don't want to have to scratch build something but hey, if ya gotta, ya gotta!
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 05:18 AM UTC
Downloading "The Train" on iTunes as we speak!
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 06:38 AM UTC
Going to try and cover what is currently out there on the market (all German) and show both an image of the model and an image of the real thing. (all German)
Oh and did I mention, they are all German prototypes!


First up, the Br 86 Dampflokmotive by Thrumpeter:

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Of what is available on the market this is my favorite. Compact but powerful. And you get a lot of loco for the space taken up on your diorama!
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 06:45 AM UTC
Here's a start (for mainstream producers)

http://www.maketeswar2.com/PBSCCatalog.asp?CatID=564723

LZ Models has released a few Russian freight cars :

http://www.lzmodels.wbs.cz/135-Russian-20t-platform-railcar.html

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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 07:08 AM UTC
Frenchy your last posting also answered my earlier question about where to get car brake rigging in 1/35th scale!
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 11:17 AM UTC
The next German steam engine is the BR 52, again from Trumpeter, a sizable monster 2-10-0 with tender that will take up a lot of real estate on your diorama at over 2 feet long.

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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 11:28 AM UTC
You know I haven't see any one ask for a Japanese, or Chinese locomotive think of a Diorama of the Bridge over the river Kawi in 1/35 it would be huge, but 1/72 would be do able
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 11:56 AM UTC

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Maybe I might even find one for sale on line.



This HO one is only £325.00...



It's been released by DJH :

http://www.djhmodelloco.co.uk

/prodpage.asp?productid=3073


Hi,HP! YOOWWWCH!!! GBP325.00!!! That's $523.25 in US DOLLARS!!! PLUS SHIPPING, which from the UK and Europe IS NOT CHEAP!!!I think that I can scratch-build a 1/35 example of the S-160 for A FRACTION of that cost!!!

H.P.

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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 12:39 PM UTC
That's why I started scratch building - to avoid the high prices!
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 01:11 PM UTC
This is a great idea that I hope gains traction with model companies. I'd love to see an ALCo RS-1 in 1/35.

Just a thought, why not lobby for locos in 1/48? American prototypes are readily available in 1/48 - O scale.
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 01:15 PM UTC

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Hi, All! "THE TRAIN" is an EXCELLENT MOVIE!!!



One of the all time great train movies! The opening where he replaced a brass - incredible!
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 07:35 PM UTC
Just for the eng/techo geeks out there: the stuff Burt pours into the mold is called Babbitt. A low melting point metal that lines the insides of the bearing surfaces on a steam locomotive. With good alignment and steady oiling a bearing like that can last for years but cut off the oil and let it over heat and it will run out of the bearing like a pot boiling over (just like in the movie) and then it is bare metal on metal.

Usually the shop will machine the babbitted bearing after recasting but perhaps if time happens to be short (as in having a testy German breathing down your neck) you can skip that step???
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 07:49 PM UTC
Shown here: The shop foreman is turning one of the babbitted half-bearings on the horizontal mill. You can see three of the completed half-bearings in the right front of this photo.
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Posted: Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 11:24 PM UTC

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Hi, All! "THE TRAIN" is an EXCELLENT MOVIE!!!



One of the all time great train movies! The opening where he replaced a brass - incredible!



Yeah! You mean when Burt Lancaster put the brass slug inside the main rod bearing lube cap!!!