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Posted: Saturday, February 20, 2016 - 02:11 AM UTC

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Jason do you know when is the release date for this?


Squadron has it in stock right now...just arrived Wednesday. I haven't seen it anywhere else, however....even in China. Should be any day now for the rest of the world (I know you meant the other Jason, but I'd figured I'd answer, as mine shipped yesterday from Squadron)



Chinese New Year celebrations for sure played a part in drastically halting the large scale shipping of the kits. With the holiday period finished now the kits should start appearing across the globe.


containers already on the way
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Posted: Friday, February 19, 2016 - 05:18 AM UTC

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Jason do you know when is the release date for this?


Squadron has it in stock right now...just arrived Wednesday. I haven't seen it anywhere else, however....even in China. Should be any day now for the rest of the world (I know you meant the other Jason, but I'd figured I'd answer, as mine shipped yesterday from Squadron)



Chinese New Year celebrations for sure played a part in drastically halting the large scale shipping of the kits. With the holiday period finished now the kits should start appearing across the globe.
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Posted: Friday, February 19, 2016 - 04:43 AM UTC

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Jason do you know when is the release date for this?


Squadron has it in stock right now...just arrived Wednesday. I haven't seen it anywhere else, however....even in China. Should be any day now for the rest of the world (I know you meant the other Jason, but I'd figured I'd answer, as mine shipped yesterday from Squadron)
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Posted: Friday, February 19, 2016 - 03:17 AM UTC
Jason do you know when is the release date for this?
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Posted: Thursday, February 18, 2016 - 10:52 PM UTC
Awesome Chris!

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Posted: Thursday, February 18, 2016 - 06:45 PM UTC

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A correction to what Jason mentioned , "snow grousers" are just called grousers, and they are used all year round not just on snow & ice.

Anthony

Author Canadian Leopard Project Reference DVD series



Holy Potato-Potato Batman!



While admittedly not from the Leopard 2 manual, the following scans are from the Taurus ARV Operator's Manual.





Just sayin'!

Cheers,

Chris
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Posted: Thursday, February 18, 2016 - 10:44 AM UTC

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A correction to what Jason mentioned , "snow grousers" are just called grousers, and they are used all year round not just on snow & ice.

Anthony

Author Canadian Leopard Project Reference DVD series



Holy Potato-Potato Batman!


you two naughty......
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Posted: Thursday, February 18, 2016 - 10:25 AM UTC

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A correction to what Jason mentioned , "snow grousers" are just called grousers, and they are used all year round not just on snow & ice.

Anthony

Author Canadian Leopard Project Reference DVD series



Holy Potato-Potato Batman!
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Posted: Thursday, February 18, 2016 - 10:19 AM UTC
A correction to what Jason mentioned , "snow grousers" are just called grousers, and they are used all year round not just on snow & ice.

Anthony

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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 11:01 PM UTC

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They are snow grousers. They replace individual track pads to provide better track grip on snow and ice.

They are not removed with the Barracuda in place. The Barracuda covers the six grousers on the rear of the turret. The grousers on the turret bins are not covered by the Barracuda panels so they remain exposed.



Thank you Jason.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 02:31 PM UTC

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Thank you for asking this question! I have built the PSM Leopard 2A4M CAN Barracuda conversion and I used the basic Hobby Boss Leopard 2A4 kit. You hardly use any of the actually kit with the conversion. The lower hull and suspension, some detail parts on the upper hull, and some detail parts on the turret. With the Barracuda MCS many details are covered or supplied in the conversion.

That being said I am not discounting the use of the new Hobby Boss kit. The new Hobby Boss 2A4M kit provides the lower hull side add-on armour panels...the PSM kit does not. The Hobby Boss kit includes the reinforcing bars on the bottom rear hull...the Hobby Boss kit and the PSM conversion do not.

In building the 2A4M CAN Barracuda PSM conversion I can confidently say that you can see literally none of the lower hull sides where the add-on armour panels would be located. If you can live without that detail then simply stick with the basic Hobby Boss Leopard 2A4 kit for the base kit with the conversion.

I hope that helps you and other modellers out.



Thanks for the answer Jason. Very much appreciated.

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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 12:38 PM UTC
Thanks for posting the pictures Jim.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 11:14 AM UTC
They are snow grousers. They replace individual track pads to provide better track grip on snow and ice.

They are not removed with the Barracuda in place. The Barracuda covers the six grousers on the rear of the turret. The grousers on the turret bins are not covered by the Barracuda panels so they remain exposed.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 10:48 AM UTC
Nice pics. The tank looks a bit stange with only the velcro strips.

Question about the tank. What is the function of those parts with a cross on the rear of the turret ?

Are they removed when the MCS Barracuda is applied ?

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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 09:49 AM UTC
Hey Jason, yep, Ralston Rodeo 2012, first time got a good look at the beastie!

Cheers,
Jim
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 09:06 AM UTC
Excellent pics Jim.

Are the first two pics at the Ralston Rodeo?
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 08:08 AM UTC
Just a few of my favourites to wet your whistle, I am really looking forward to this kit. I'm trying to get a quick build of my Y-Modelle conversion done first though!:









Notice on the last photo this tank is missing the rear left tail light cluster and mudflap.

Cheers,
Jim
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 05:23 AM UTC

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I'm wondering how much of a base kit is actually seen under PSM's Barracuda conversion? Does it even matter if we use Hobby Boss 2A4 or 2A4 CAN under the PSM conversion?

Mario



Thank you for asking this question! I have built the PSM Leopard 2A4M CAN Barracuda conversion and I used the basic Hobby Boss Leopard 2A4 kit. You hardly use any of the actually kit with the conversion. The lower hull and suspension, some detail parts on the upper hull, and some detail parts on the turret. With the Barracuda MCS many details are covered or supplied in the conversion.

That being said I am not discounting the use of the new Hobby Boss kit. The new Hobby Boss 2A4M kit provides the lower hull side add-on armour panels...the PSM kit does not. The Hobby Boss kit includes the reinforcing bars on the bottom rear hull...the Hobby Boss kit and the PSM conversion do not.

In building the 2A4M CAN Barracuda PSM conversion I can confidently say that you can see literally none of the lower hull sides where the add-on armour panels would be located. If you can live without that detail then simply stick with the basic Hobby Boss Leopard 2A4 kit for the base kit with the conversion.

I hope that helps you and other modellers out.



I just looked at the online copy of the directions at Hobbysearch. Doesn't look like the add on armor would be too hard to make, if one really wanted to add the detail. Same goes for the three reinforcing strips. I was thinking that PSM included those, but now I remember it was in the Storm Miniatures conversion. Since I ordered one of the new kits, I probably will just use those kit parts as a template for the PSM kit/old HB Leo. (I am one of those "if I know it's missing, I feel like I need to add it" people) I have one of their Leopard 2Es to use and since that kit is useless for anything else, I might as well get some use out of it.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 04:44 AM UTC

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BTW: got some good news from Trumpeter..If any of you feel the back grill is a big big big problem. the replacement sercive for the correct part will also be arranged when the fix is ready.(and if you dont want wait for a long time for a replacement part and afraid of the postal cost from China....the furture release of other new variant will add an extra back plate just in case) For me it wont be a big deal because the area will be hidden by the slat armor. it is fine for me. just my 2 cents. so be happy. the only flaw is gone for once.



Well done Trumpeter / Hobby Boss!
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 04:40 AM UTC

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For an Afghanistan one my question is: with the existing PE baracuda nets is it really difficult to do our own accurate Leopard???



It is difficult. The Barracuda MCS is not just camouflage nets draped over the tank. They are constructed of solid panels that vary in size and shape with the camouflage netting attached to the panels. Some of the panels overlap and some of the panels fit edges of other. Some have tight edges and others appear to have flexible loose edges.

If a producer was to create an aftermarket Barracuda MCS set it would have to be AFV specific. Likely along the same way the thin resin sets of Zimmerit have been produced. The producer would need to have the proper technical diagrams showing the layout on the rear tank in order to create it in 1/35. Even then they would have to get the look of the Barracuda correct. So far, PSM is the only company to get it looking very close to the real thing.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 04:35 AM UTC

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I'm wondering how much of a base kit is actually seen under PSM's Barracuda conversion? Does it even matter if we use Hobby Boss 2A4 or 2A4 CAN under the PSM conversion?

Mario



Thank you for asking this question! I have built the PSM Leopard 2A4M CAN Barracuda conversion and I used the basic Hobby Boss Leopard 2A4 kit. You hardly use any of the actually kit with the conversion. The lower hull and suspension, some detail parts on the upper hull, and some detail parts on the turret. With the Barracuda MCS many details are covered or supplied in the conversion.

That being said I am not discounting the use of the new Hobby Boss kit. The new Hobby Boss 2A4M kit provides the lower hull side add-on armour panels...the PSM kit does not. The Hobby Boss kit includes the reinforcing bars on the bottom rear hull...the Hobby Boss kit and the PSM conversion do not.

In building the 2A4M CAN Barracuda PSM conversion I can confidently say that you can see literally none of the lower hull sides where the add-on armour panels would be located. If you can live without that detail then simply stick with the basic Hobby Boss Leopard 2A4 kit for the base kit with the conversion.

I hope that helps you and other modellers out.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 03:38 AM UTC
Squadron has the kit in stock, FYI
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 03:25 AM UTC

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Is Meng gonna do one too?



I don't think so. They seem to be going another Leopard route.


Where is the A7? the countless waiting......so slow and too many tease....not funny


Countless waiting? They just announced the Leopard 2A7 about 50 days ago!


i dont think they even have ability to get the A7 done..first is scud. then chieftan. pfff..
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 01:31 AM UTC

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Is Meng gonna do one too?



I don't think so. They seem to be going another Leopard route.


Where is the A7? the countless waiting......so slow and too many tease....not funny


Countless waiting? They just announced the Leopard 2A7 about 50 days ago!
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 01:24 AM UTC

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Is Meng gonna do one too?



I don't think so. They seem to be going another Leopard route.


Where is the A7? the countless waiting......so slow and too many tease....not funny