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Poland 1939
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Posted: Sunday, September 18, 2016 - 08:54 PM UTC

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I'm in with a piece of artillery. Haven't locked down yet which...but leaning to a German 7.5cm Infantry Gun. The Poles just didn't have all that much in '39.

Mike



Terrific! Artillery will broaden our campaign nicely. Welcome aboard!
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Posted: Monday, September 19, 2016 - 11:34 PM UTC
I am in. I believe I have a PLZ aircraft somewhere in my stash.

Looking forward to it.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - 01:34 AM UTC

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I am in. I believe I have a PLZ aircraft somewhere in my stash.

Looking forward to it.



Yes! I love the PLZs and look forward to seeing you build it. There was also a kit of a Polish twin engined bomber out some years ago. That would also make a neat subject.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - 12:12 PM UTC
Hi Paul,

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Yes! I love the PLZs and look forward to seeing you build it. There was also a kit of a Polish twin engined bomber out some years ago. That would also make a neat subject.



This twin-engined Polish bomber is PZL.37 Łoś (elk,moose in English).
There are kits available from Mirage Hobby in 1/48th scale:

Mirage kit 48310
Mirage kit 48302
Mirage kit 48312

CHeers,
Radek
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Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - 10:05 PM UTC
Thanks Radek, that is indeed the aircraft I recalled. It was a very sleek modern design for 1939.
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Posted: Thursday, September 22, 2016 - 05:27 AM UTC
Welcome to everyone who has signed up for the Poland 1939 campaign! We have 20 builders now with ships, aircraft, tanks & even a balloon project in mind.

I was curious if the Soviet T-35 five turreted monster might have been used in Poland. From what I have read, the answer is no. They were old and gave a lot of mechanical trouble and so they were left at home.

The T-28 medium tank with three turrets was used.
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 08:36 AM UTC
What German tanks would be suitable for this campaign?
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 09:32 AM UTC

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What German tanks would be suitable for this campaign?



Panzer I - ausf A/B

Panzer ii - ausf A/B/C/D

Panzer III - ausf A/B/C/D

Panzer IV - ausf A/B/C/D

Panzer 35(t)- n/a

Panzer 38(t) - ausf A

And any of the command modifications for listed vehicles.
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 10:50 PM UTC
Yes, this list looks reasonable. Also some of the armored cars & half tracks were used along with trucks & autos of various sorts.
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Posted: Sunday, September 25, 2016 - 11:10 PM UTC
I have this kit, but I guess it won't work because it's a J?



What about this one?
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 01:29 AM UTC

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I have this kit, but I guess it won't work because it's a J?

What about this one?



Sorry to say that, Dustin, but none of the kits will fit the campaign's main rules... Both tanks were introduced in combat later than 1939.

Cheers,
Radek
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 01:46 AM UTC
Dustin - Those are both tanks used later in WW2. The Pz IV D is the right model but not the right version. The colors would be grey & brown or all grey. The dark yellow was still in the future.
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 03:56 AM UTC
Wow. Scalehobbyist doesn't have a very good selection of early war stuff.

Were the ME109's used during this time period?
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 04:56 AM UTC
Bf-109 D and E.

And the Pzkpfw III Ausf E. There is a recent Orange box Cyber hobby that's applicable. There's also the recent Hobby boss reissue of the Tristar early Pzkpfw IV and Pzkpfw 38 (t)

For armored cars there's the
Kfz. 15
Sdkfz. 221
Sdkfz. 222
Sdkfz. 231/232 6 rad
Sdkfz. 231/232 8 rad.

Any German armor with the white or yellow solid cross on it.

As for me I am considering a Pzkpfw II or III or even digging out an Airfix Do-17p which has the "first kill" markings in it.
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 04:57 AM UTC

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Wow. Scalehobbyist doesn't have a very good selection of early war stuff.

Were the ME109's used during this time period?



There are plenty of good kits out from Dragon, Hobby Boss, Tamiya, Trumpeter and other companies. For a quick easy build you can't beat the Tamiya Panzerkampfwagen II Ausf. C, Sd.Kfz.121, Polish Campaign, kit number 35299. There are plenty of others out there, I mention this one only because it is readily available and even has the correct decals.
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 05:04 AM UTC

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Came across this -- http://www.panzerworld.com/poland-1939, while searching for AFVs that have fought in Fall Weiss. I'd say a good starting point.



Thanks Tat for this link, I found it very interesting. Have you seen a list of Soviet equipment used to match those listed for Poland & Germany? There are a number of interesting Soviet subjects that might have been used.



Here's what I trawled so far. From http://www.ghqmodels.com/pdf/Soviet%20Union/Soviet%20Tank%20Bttn.%20(1939-40).pdf

Light Tank Platoon 4 x T-26 OR 4 x BT5
Fast Assault Gun Platoon # 2 x BT-7A
Light Tank Company* 3-4 x Light Tank Platoon, 1 x Light Tank, 1 x Light Tank (HQ)
Light Tank Battalion 4 x Light Tank Company, 1 x Fast Assault Gun Platoon, 1 x Light Tank (GHQ)
Heavy Tank Platoon 3 x T-28
Heavy Tank Company 4 x Heavy Tank Platoon, 1 x Heavy Tank, 1 x Tank (HQ)
Fast Tank Platoon 3 x BT5 x OR 3 x BT-7
Fast Tank Company 4 x Fast Tank Platoon, 1 x BT5 OR BT-7, 1 x BT5 OR BT-7 (HQ)
Heavy Tank Battalion 3 x Heavy Tank Company, 1 x Fast Tank Company,
2 x T-28, 1 x BT-7, 1 x T-28 (GHQ)
# -Only deployed with battalions equipped with BT5-7 Tanks
SUPPORT UNITS
Recon Platoon 4 x T-37 OR 4 x BA-10 OR 4 x BA-32
Recon Company* 3 x Recon Platoon, 1 x T-37 OR BA-10 OR 4 x BA-32,
1 x T-37 OR BA-10 OR BA-32 (HQ)
Motorized Infantry Platoon 4 x Infantry, 4 x Light Truck
Mortar Company 3 x 82mm Mortar (2), 3 x Light Truck
Motorized Infantry Company 3 x Motorized Infantry Platoon, 1 x MMG, 1 x Infantry HQ, 2 x Light Truck
Mortar Company 3 x 82mm Mortar (2), 3 x Light Truck
ATG Platoon 2 x 45mm (m1932) ATG, 2 x Light Truck

Nothing much, and does not explicitly state as deployed for the Polish campaign, but it gives an idea on the organization and assigned armor as of 1939-40 period. Will keep looking.

Dustin, the link Paul referred to may give you an idea on German and Polish armor employed during the campaign.

Cheers,

Tat
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 05:39 AM UTC

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Bf-109 D and E.

And the Pzkpfw III Ausf E. There is a recent Orange box Cyber hobby that's applicable. There's also the recent Hobby boss reissue of the Tristar early Pzkpfw IV and Pzkpfw 38 (t)

For armored cars there's the
Kfz. 15
Sdkfz. 221
Sdkfz. 222
Sdkfz. 231/232 6 rad
Sdkfz. 231/232 8 rad.

Any German armor with the white or yellow solid cross on it.

As for me I am considering a Pzkpfw II or III or even digging out an Airfix Do-17p which has the "first kill" markings in it.



Thank you for this list, it helps with choices. There are also so very detailed Mini Art Kits of the early Panzer IIIs that would have been used in the Polish campaign.

Don't forget captured equipment. Both sides would have used it where they could get it.
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 05:44 AM UTC
Thanks Tat, more excellent choices! I have seem pictures of the T-26s & T-27s. The T-28 book mentions they were used as well. One of my favorites, the BT fast tanks were also used and the are kits from Zvezda and Tamiya and possibly other makers readily available.

I just got a couple of armored cars, the BA-3 & BA-10 kitted by Hobby Boss and they look very good in the box.
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 06:00 AM UTC
Will this qualify?

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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 07:41 AM UTC

Trautloft's Red 1 is a nice pick Dustin, I'd go for it!



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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 08:04 AM UTC
Ok great! This will be my first airplane. Lol

The early war Panzers just don't peak my interests, so this plane is a welcomed build for me, because I've been wanting to build a ME109 for awhile now.
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 08:05 PM UTC
Question, BF-109E-B4, is this plane too late for the war in Poland?
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 09:58 PM UTC

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Question, BF-109E-B4, is this plane too late for the war in Poland?



I'm not sure, you may have to do some research. Your 109 E with Trautloft's Red 1 markings was perfect, September of 1939, assuming he was engaged in the Polish campaign.

The idea here is Poland 1939 so markings need to be those of participants or LIKELY participants. Both the equipment and the markings should be likely participants. Given the fog of war and the passage of decades we may have to go with our best guess in some cases.

Above all, this is an excuse to learn a little history and enjoy building a model to help bring it to life.
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 10:33 PM UTC
10-4 Paul. I'll do some research and see if he was in that campaign.

Thank you sir.
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Posted: Monday, September 26, 2016 - 11:18 PM UTC

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10-4 Paul. I'll do some research and see if he was in that campaign.

Thank you sir.



The research just adds to the depth of your enjoyment. Without the backstory or history, our models are just lifeless objects. With the historical context, our models become story tellers.