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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Loading SSys Schwerlastwagens
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 02:39 AM UTC
Track changing in front of the train station (Marasesti, Romania, June 1944 ). You can notice the adjustable wood beam on the platform railcar deck in the foreground of the top picture :





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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 02:51 AM UTC
Yes, side loading from a station freight platform of equal height positioned right next to the flatcar is probably the system most often employed. Most stations of the day had such a platform.

I know nothing as to the massive "portable" ramp that could allow the tanks to climb up from the end of the flatcar. A portion of such a ramp is shown in the photo I posted on the loading of the second damaged Tiger 1.

Also a model of such a ramp is currently available.
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 02:59 AM UTC
I planned to upload the same pictures, all been shown by now. The question is Chicken or Egg, what came first: track or tank?
Was very busy editing my post, did not see response so far

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Robert Jan
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 02:59 AM UTC
That still does not answer the question of how they would handle a 6300 pound wiggly snake of a combat track once they had gotten it removed from the tank???
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 03:06 AM UTC

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I know nothing as to the massive "portable" ramp that could allow the tanks to climb up from the end of the flatcar. A portion of such a ramp is shown in the photo I posted on the loading of the second damaged Tiger 1.



Here's a similar (maybe lighter ?) one :


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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 03:08 AM UTC
What you suggested Michael. Getting it folded for a reasonable length and drag behind the Tiger. Using a crane and winch at the front, seen on earlier post with damaged Tiger to get it underneath. On a SSyms there is some space to manouvre behind the Tiger to get this done .

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Posted: Friday, February 22, 2019 - 09:16 PM UTC
Interesting question posed by Gregory Copplin regarding the folding "fence" at one end of the car.

Here is the link:

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=275519&page=1#2321181
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Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2019 - 09:30 PM UTC
Link to the factory web page illustrating Sabre Models' new heavy German six-axle flatcar:

http://www.sabremodel.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=20&product_id=52


And their new G10 German Goods Wagon:

http://www.sabremodel.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=20&product_id=30
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Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2019 - 03:53 AM UTC
Hi Michael & other people interested in this topic.
My crude plan, Michael asked me for it in another topic, for loading the Schwerlastwagen and other railroad platforms, is to make use of a system that already exist in Railroad modeling. Fine scale train modelers have an almost ISO approach for module building, its called FREMO.
You can download such plans for e.g. H0 scale and use that to scale it up to 1/35. It gives exact measurements for display and is perfect to connect new sections, building a diorama. Positive aspect I guess.
Plan is to build a platform where material is lined up, waiting to mount the train. For the layout I want to use photos from the old train stations, which you can find easily on the web.
The track on such a module / section is always the centerline or connection (FREMO).
I have to search for some practical information to make it work for me when it comes to scale metal tracks and wooden sleepers, I've seen already (and not too expensive) just to get it right in length and expression of the materials. Those plastics from whatever manufacturer just are not ok! So I will build my own in 1/35 scale.

Now why did the SSys got on hold?
Reason the build is somewhat of my interest right now, is simply my focus on details, that after a while, will disappear because its useless to add, so I need something to get me starting again, a fresh idea, finish other stuff and jump back to this one when done. So I build the loads, like the Büssing, KDO, etc.

Will post more info on the SSys very soon.

Kind regards,

Robert Jan