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Build Log: 1/350 USS Missouri
StephenLarsen
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Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 - 03:38 PM UTC
Thanks for your patronage, Rory!

Great build! Really enjoying your thread. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.
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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2018 - 06:19 PM UTC
As promised some pics of the Shapeways 5" turret.



You cannot see any detail at all, looks like smoothish plastic.

However a bit of a wash and....



All the detail pops out. I am concerned about how delicate the detail is though and I am wondering if the paint will cover it up.

@Russell, I can definitely see and feel those ridges however they seem to be very fine and I am hoping some 800 grit will buff them out. I think it will still be an easier clean up than the kit turrets with their multi piece construction.
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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2018 - 02:34 AM UTC

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I hear you. The Eduard set provides a lot of detail and like all Eduard sets looks to be easy to bend and install. However after looking at the instructions I could see a bunch of detail that it left off. After doing some searching I found the Long Xing Model L3502201:350 Battleship Etched Remodeling Kit for US Missouri. This has lots of the same stuff as the Eduard kit but it also has a lot of additional detail. It also came with the turned brass barrels.




I found the same thing with the KGV sets. Lots of overlap between WEM, Eduard and Pontos-Just depends what level of crazy we are as to how much detail we wanna add I guess

The Shapeways stuff looks great, but the thing I've found with them is that they are hard to paint (it doesn't adhere as well as it does to plastic or resin) and there's a definite 'grain' on the surface from the printing process, so you need to do a bit of experimentation and take extra care with the finish.
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2018 - 07:28 PM UTC
@ Steve:

I will say they don't appear as detailed as they did from the 3D model on Shapeways which is a shame as the Mk37 and Mk38 Directors look identical to the model. That being said, because they are translucent it is very hard to see the finer detail so I will wait till I get a wash or primer down on them to bring the detail out.
Either way its not that big a deal since both the Eduard and Long Xing Model PE kit both have a lot of detail to add to the 5" turrets.

Here is the Shapeways page for them: https://www.shapeways.com/product/YBJ7W23A8/1-350-5-quot-38-mk-28-twin-mounts-fixed-trunnion?optionId=59943575

@Russel:

I hear you. The Eduard set provides a lot of detail and like all Eduard sets looks to be easy to bend and install. However after looking at the instructions I could see a bunch of detail that it left off. After doing some searching I found the Long Xing Model L3502201:350 Battleship Etched Remodeling Kit for US Missouri. This has lots of the same stuff as the Eduard kit but it also has a lot of additional detail. It also came with the turned brass barrels.

I am still deciding on the deck. I think it ultimately comes down to when I want to model her. After looking at photos I noted she had the Blue deck until right after VJ Day. You can see the blue when the Japanese came on board to surrender. However it looks like a short time after the deck paint was scrubbed off though she still had the rest of her Measure 22 camo.

If I keep the Blue deck then I will paint it since the dark blue will hide a multitude of sins i.e. sanded and re-scribe lines. If I go for the wood deck then I will buy an aftermarket set.

@Timothy: I will try and remember to take some pictures tonight of the 16" barrels. They came in the Long Xing set and while I was not expecting them to be great I am pleasantly surprised by how good they are. If I am honest though, if they hadn't come in the set I would rather have bought the 16" ones from RB Model.
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2018 - 04:39 PM UTC

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Rory,

I'll be following along, as I want to do a New Jersey in the future.

Are those 5" turrets from Shapeways?

Steve



Yes they are. The seller was ModelMonkey I believe.



THanks I have a USS Alaska waiting in the wings and I might replace those turrets.

Steve
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2018 - 03:18 PM UTC
Very cool-looking 5" turrets! I like the translucent look about them. I would love to see those brass 16" barrels - the 5 inchers look really good, so those "big boys" must look great!
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2018 - 03:18 PM UTC
Excellent subject choice Rory!

These old Tamiya kits are great but they sure lack details...

I had to purchase both the WEM and the Eduard sets for my KGV by Tamiya, but even then I needed to top up with a friend's Pontos kit's spares and a wooden deck!

Following with interest!
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2018 - 06:28 AM UTC

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Rory,

I'll be following along, as I want to do a New Jersey in the future.

Are those 5" turrets from Shapeways?

Steve



Yes they are. The seller was ModelMonkey I believe.
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2018 - 06:17 AM UTC
Rory,

I'll be following along, as I want to do a New Jersey in the future.

Are those 5" turrets from Shapeways?

Steve
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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2018 - 12:44 AM UTC
I have done some preliminary work on the deck. It comes in 3 parts which means seams to correct. Unfortunately there was a massive gap between the middle and front deck pieces which I have been working on correcting.


Reinforced the undersides of the joins with sheet styrene and also to provide an anchor for my filling in.


As stated, its a substantial gap


Filled and mostly sanded down. Just needs a bot more work. Unfortunately this has obliterated the planking detail which I am going to attempt to rescribe in.


Gap between the rear decking plates cleaned up really well. Not nearly as much rescribing needed.

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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2018 - 12:38 AM UTC
About 6 months ago I was perusing Craigslist when I came across an offer for the Tamiya 1/350 USS Missouri (1945) for a very good price ($40). I quickly contacted the seller and the next day retrieved her.

Looking at the kit I realized that while it was a fantastic kit when it came out it now lacked a lot of the details I am used to. Huge amounts of flat, featureless plastic. So I resolved to correct this.

I have slowly been gathering the necessary aftermarket bits I wanted to incorporate. I bought not 1, not 2 but 3 different sets of PE for her. There is a fair amount of redundancy between sets but that just means I can makes some mistakes and not have it be the end of the world.

I have turned brass barrels for the 16" and 5" guns and I also got some 3D printed replacements for the 5" turrets as well as the Mk 37 and Mk38 Directors.

Only thing I am undecided on is the deck. I am going to try paint a realistic look deck before I hand over another $40 for a wooden aftermarket.


All the bits and pieces.


3D printed parts. I am very happy with the directors but will wait to judge the 5" turrets until I have some primer on them to see all the details.


The one good thing about the 5" turrets is that they already have holes for the barrels and they fit perfectly, as least when dry fitted.

I am really looking forward to getting stuck in to this kit. Definitely going to take some of my attention from the HMS Roberts.

Speaking of the Roberts here is a size comparison.


And just to compare the size of the Missouri against other ships here she is compared to my USS Fletcher and my HMS Warspite. Just a wee size difference. She really is a massive ship in real life.