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Posted: Friday, August 17, 2018 - 05:40 AM UTC

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That color scheme must have been picked by a interior decorator because that color green goes very well with the gray. Nice work.

Mark



Hi Mark,

Strangely it was a naturalist, Sir Peter Scott who is credited with designing these schemes.

Thanks for your kind comment, It is an attractive scheme.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, August 17, 2018 - 05:35 AM UTC

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She looks good in all her Candy Colours Si!

Always liked the WA schemes along with some of the colourful designs applied to the Flower Class corvettes...



Thanks Russ,

Likewise, colourful warships are a nice change. would really like to do a WW1 dazzle on something one of these days.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, August 17, 2018 - 05:26 AM UTC

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Outstanding.




Thanks Chuck, very kind of you to say so

It is quite a striking scheme, all straight lines do make it easier to handle.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 - 11:41 PM UTC
That color scheme must have been picked by a interior decorator because that color green goes very well with the gray. Nice work.

Mark
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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 - 09:56 AM UTC
She looks good in all her Candy Colours Si!

Always liked the WA schemes along with some of the colourful designs applied to the Flower Class corvettes...
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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 - 09:16 AM UTC
Outstanding.
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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 - 08:52 AM UTC
The final bits of the hull & camo.

The top of the boot topping masked.



masking removed.



Final panel masked.



Camouflage done.



Steel grey areas on the deck painted and washed.



slightly concerning air bubbles in the bottom of B gundeck.



B gun deck assembled, ready for paint.



More soon,

Si

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Posted: Thursday, August 16, 2018 - 08:22 AM UTC

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Outstanding. Can't wait to see the finished work.

I was satisfied with my experiment. So much so I may have to find a deck and superstructure to go with it. I used the camouflage depicted on the top and bottom of the Tamiya Cushing box in 1/700.

What I will say is that I do like your bottom up approach over what I had previously done which was top down.



Thanks Chuck,

The advantage, well to me anyway, of going from the keel up with the primer, is not only do I have my anti fouling on, but a top notch base coat, and way less chance of the masking tape pulling paint off.

Pics to be added shortly.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, August 13, 2018 - 04:21 PM UTC
Outstanding. Can't wait to see the finished work.

I was satisfied with my experiment. So much so I may have to find a deck and superstructure to go with it. I used the camouflage depicted on the top and bottom of the Tamiya Cushing box in 1/700.

What I will say is that I do like your bottom up approach over what I had previously done which was top down.
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Posted: Monday, August 13, 2018 - 08:13 AM UTC

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I think I may be fortunate in that the three colors I am using, are Haze Gray, Ocean Gray, and Black, and I plan to do the boot top, at the same time I apply the black portion of the camouflage.

What color by brand and name is the green? I presume you air brushed the green on?




Hi Chuck,

Good plan, will save on the masking.

The Green is Lifecolor Western Approaches Green. It came out of a jar that I have had for a while. It was applied with a hairy stick. I have found this paint does not airbrush well if it has been opened for a while.


I did finish the camo job on Sunday, will update later in the week, when I have a bit of time.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Sunday, August 12, 2018 - 03:17 AM UTC
I think I may be fortunate in that the three colors I am using, are Haze Gray, Ocean Gray, and Black, and I plan to do the boot top, at the same time I apply the black portion of the camouflage.

What color by brand and name is the green? I presume you air brushed the green on?
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Posted: Saturday, August 11, 2018 - 07:47 AM UTC
On with the painting.

The shape on bow is quite "interesting", all the tape in place, but not trimmed.



Trimmed and ready for paint.



Green on, there is on patch that need to be repainted white, that will be done after the boot topping.



More soon.

Si
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2018 - 07:02 AM UTC

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This Fletcher will not be completed Simon. It is a hull left over from blending a Tamiya round bridge, with a Trumpeter hull, (waterlined), and portions of the superstructure, into a mid war round bridge, which I am doing, with a bit of struggle as USS Nicholas, named for the first naval officer, and first Marine commissioned by the Continental Congress.

When you have some time I would be happy to tell you about Nicholas recruiting our first Marines at Tun's Tavern in Philadelphia, and the Corps' birthday 10 November 1775. That of course if you are in the mood to revisit that little misunderstanding we had with the King and Mother Country.

So I am just using the hull to see if I can mirror your technique.




Hi Chuck,

Good luck with the hull anyway mate. Experimenting is never a bad idea.


That is one period and campaign, outside the Royal Navy's moderately poor performance, I know very little about. Always willing to learn, even about the ones we lost.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 12:52 PM UTC
This Fletcher will not be completed Simon. It is a hull left over from blending a Tamiya round bridge, with a Trumpeter hull, (waterlined), and portions of the superstructure, into a mid war round bridge, which I am doing, with a bit of struggle as USS Nicholas, named for the first naval officer, and first Marine commissioned by the Continental Congress.

When you have some time I would be happy to tell you about Nicholas recruiting our first Marines at Tun's Tavern in Philadelphia, and the Corps' birthday 10 November 1775. That of course if you are in the mood to revisit that little misunderstanding we had with the King and Mother Country.

So I am just using the hull to see if I can mirror your technique.
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 08:14 AM UTC

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Will be looking in to see that camo when it's finished




Thanks for looking in this time mate.

WA green should be laid down on Saturday. The boot topping on Sunday, lifecolor paints can take a little time to cure to take masking tape for the boot toping.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 08:11 AM UTC

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Taking copious notes. Thanks Simon. I am inspired. Actually I am following your methods on a Tamiya Fletcher as you post them. Different colors of course but same methodology.



You are very welcome Chuck,

Good luck with the Fletcher, wouldn't mind seeing how it turns out.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 09:34 AM UTC
Will be looking in to see that camo when it's finished
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Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 08:53 AM UTC
Taking copious notes. Thanks Simon. I am inspired. Actually I am following your methods on a Tamiya Fletcher as you post them. Different colors of course but same methodology.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 08:32 AM UTC

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Simon: I am going to assume that the white paint is a general purpose paint, one not necessarily used for modeling. I am not at all familiar with the paint brands available in the UK. Set me straight here.

The Tamiya XF18 is one that I have not had much success with brushing. I think it may be me though in not having thinned it enough. The paint seems to drag over the surface when I brush it.




Hi Chuck,

The white comes from Games workshop, they are a fantasy / Sci Fi wargaming store, it is designed to cover plastic / resin / white metal & etch. I like their paints. The rattlecans are very forgiving, and their ordinary paints are brush friendly, cover well and their metallics' are very good.

Little trick brushing Tamiya, I lay down a couple of slightly thinned coats to get colour density, then when dry but not cured, put a water thinned almost wash coat, that seems to get rid of the brush marks and level everything odd.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 - 04:26 AM UTC
Simon: I am going to assume that the white paint is a general purpose paint, one not necessarily used for modeling. I am not at all familiar with the paint brands available in the UK. Set me straight here.

The Tamiya XF18 is one that I have not had much success with brushing. I think it may be me though in not having thinned it enough. The paint seems to drag over the surface when I brush it.
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2018 - 08:59 AM UTC
TLAR Camouflage.

Lower hull masked at the bottom of the boot topping.



Upper hull sprayed Citadel Corax white, rattlecan, it is an off white base coat, covers well, and makes a decent WA White.



B5 areas masked.




And painted in, on small ships, I go old school and use the hairy stick, Lazyness - avoids airbrush cleaning. Tamiya XF18 Medium Blue is used for B5.



And masking off.

WA green next.

Cheers.

Si




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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2018 - 06:28 AM UTC
Thanks Guys,

Have enjoyed reading your latest comments, and appreciate your support.

I glad the colour police don't seem to patrol this forum.

Mark, I understand the orange thing, the house my mother & father and I moved into back in the early seventies had a lot of orange paintwork in the interior décor. Spent may weekends trying to paint it out in something more soothing.

Cheers Guys
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2018 - 04:11 AM UTC
We have one painted like that near where I live as well.

I recently built "O'Bannon as she appeared a the end of the war, a round bridge Fletcher with the mid war modifications that consist of 5 twin 40mm mounts, and the addition of directors for those mounts. I used as a guide a picture of O'Bannon taken in 1949 when she was temporarily brought out of mothballs for conversion to a DDE. O'Bannon had been painted in overall Haze Gray during the post war decommissioning process, and by 1949 she appeared in a very clear photo to be overall dirty white. The gray had faded and weathered that much.

I then saw a picture of O'Bannon after conversion, again placed in mothballs, all spiffy with a new coat of Haze Gray and large shaded bow numbers, tied up with a group of other destroyers that had remained unconverted and still in mothballs. The difference was dramatic.

The conclusion that each of us must draw then is that if we wish to build and present a model as a smaller version of a builders model, like those produced by Gibbs and Cox, then the exact paint specification should be used. If we intend on the other hand to depict a ship in service practically any shade close to those specific standards will do. I believe that is what Simon is saying, and I believe him to be 100 percent correct, paint police notwithstanding.
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2018 - 01:02 AM UTC
Chuck,

Those colors don't seem bad to me. When I lived in Denver my neighbor painted their house the colors of the Denver Broncos, including the roof. Love the team, hated the orange color. Then they painted their car and mini-van in the same colors. God how I hate Bronco orange.

Mark
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Posted: Monday, August 06, 2018 - 12:05 AM UTC
When we last painted the house, my wife chose Candy Apple Aztec,Summer Fall Winter Sporing White. That;s not the real name of course, but I am sure you get the idea. Living in the high desert as we do, within a week, it looked remarkably like, of all things, WHITE.

The paint police have not made it to my street yet, but now with the sidewalks being fixed, I expect them any day now, to tell me that I am not up to their high standards of what White should look like