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Proposal: Memories of Matchbox Group Build
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Posted: Sunday, September 23, 2018 - 08:43 PM UTC
Whoops. Got busted by my son. I was going through his stash out in the garage to see what I might have given him. Seems those couple of aircraft I found earlier were actually his. In negotiations over price at the moment... He is 18 and thanks to his High School education, he has learned about supply and demand pricing. Of all the things to remember from school.

I think I might have to educate him about how the ATM (Bank of Dad) can run out of money at crucial times... like college break....
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Posted: Saturday, September 22, 2018 - 09:22 AM UTC
Thanks Jan, that makes this as clear as..... mud..... it is a real quagmire all right.

Shame about the Honey and aircraft moulds. Wonder if they are still in a warehouse somewhere.


Matthew, how about some inspiration:



Find an old ESCI Bishop (which you can enter into the Italy 1942-1945 GB too) and you would have a nice little duo. Nothing to stop you fixing the 'turd' to a wooden base and expanding that out a bit with some plaster or air drying modelling clay for a larger footprint and adding some little details and scenery.

Hint, hint...
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Posted: Saturday, September 22, 2018 - 03:12 AM UTC

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I hadn't realised the extent to which Revell had continued to use the Matchbox brand to release kits from moulds that originated from other manufacturers. I was looking at the Yak 15 for example, and see that it was originally some Korean brand, and then I suppose that the Abrams and T-80 are also not "genuine" Matchbox, ie not designed when Lesney owned it. Am I correct in thinking that the Challenger was the last Lesney produced 1/72 tank kit?



Matthew,

Welcome to the "sordid" reality of the Revell purchase of Matchbox. According to "The Book", the Yak 15 as well as a few other aircraft released post 1992 were from the Turkish PM company located near Istanbul. The T-80, Abrams, Leopard II, Stug IV and a Sherman M4 are all ex-Ace via Revell post '92. To further muddy the waters, Revell had ICM produce a number of Matchbox aircraft and they also had the M3 Honey but most of the moulds were not returned to Revell when ICM went bankrupt and the Russian company Alanger has refused to return them after buying the liquidated ICM. BTW, that's why it seems the Honey kits are rather rare to find these days. Oh and just to add more to this quagmire, Revell also released a number of former FROG aircraft post '92 under the Matchbox label.

Cheers,
--Jan
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Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 - 09:51 PM UTC

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That's the spirit Matthew, show them "Mouldy Goldies"! Now where was that M-19 during the MNC?



Yes, the car is certainly more mouldy than goldie. The M-19 has always been at the back of the queue, with the Priest and the Panzerjaeger clearly in front; there's something kind of unexciting about it... that big empty trailer, one figure, and the featureless "squashed turd" base

Tat's choice of the Puma for example has the fancy base and the three figures, all ready for a proper diorama - the bonus of the smaller vehicles, where there was a lot of plastic left over for the other bits.

I hadn't realised the extent to which Revell had continued to use the Matchbox brand to release kits from moulds that originated from other manufacturers. I was looking at the Yak 15 for example, and see that it was originally some Korean brand, and then I suppose that the Abrams and T-80 are also not "genuine" Matchbox, ie not designed when Lesney owned it. Am I correct in thinking that the Challenger was the last Lesney produced 1/72 tank kit?
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Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 - 12:28 PM UTC

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Welcome aboard to all the newbies!!

Great to see so many people getting into the mood and also buying kits as well. If you buy it for the GB, you have to build it!!!


Some of the original Matchbox kits are getting pricey, but don't forget Revell has reissued some of these too and they are not too badly priced as an option, especially if you buy other stuff to spread the postage:



https://www.revell.com/germany/military/80-3215.html#.W6V5SvZuK70



Already been eyeing that after I switched from searching just for Matchbox only. For about .50 cents more I can get one out of Cali which will be much more quicker then Lucky M's slow boat from China. However you being in OZ it prolly be more quicker.

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Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 - 11:49 AM UTC

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Very interesting Tat, quite a difference from what you did in the first campaign.


We had two of the Pumas in the first.

Cheers,
--Jan



Thanks Jan. LOL, I thought of staying away from rubber band tracks this time around. I may try a wingy-thing as well if I can get one. Cheers, Tat
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Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 - 11:04 AM UTC




Oooo my eyes, I'm blinded by Dayglo orange

Mark, I vote you do...……… both!
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Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 - 11:01 AM UTC
Welcome aboard to all the newbies!!

Great to see so many people getting into the mood and also buying kits as well. If you buy it for the GB, you have to build it!!!


Some of the original Matchbox kits are getting pricey, but don't forget Revell has reissued some of these too and they are not too badly priced as an option, especially if you buy other stuff to spread the postage:



https://www.revell.com/germany/military/80-3215.html#.W6V5SvZuK70
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Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 - 02:05 AM UTC
Very interesting Tat, quite a difference from what you did in the first campaign.


We had two of the Pumas in the first.

Cheers,
--Jan
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Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 - 01:27 AM UTC
My entry for the campaign. Got it from eBay.


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Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 09:24 AM UTC

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@(Robbd01) Robbie,

Not too sure about the 232 kit but I built the Panzer II kit and it was really nice. I've seen the Panzer II's entered in a number of model shows over the years and these Matchbox versions are usually the base kit the builders use. The Wespe PK-77 uses a similar chassis and is also extremely nice.

Cheers,
--Jan



I did see the Wespe kit up on ebay but most were a tad pricey. I may still eye ebay and maybe one cheaper might show up. Currently the only Matchbox armour kit I have done in recent years (ok decades) is the M-7 Priest. I thought the Wespe would make a good addition to it.

Cheers

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Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 08:50 AM UTC
F3D box art.
https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/1/8/8/143188-11067-pristine.jpg
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Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 03:35 AM UTC
Nice to see the action in this thread staying lively, usually a good omen for a campaign.

@(Weathering_one) AJ,

How original, another Challenger? I don’t believe that I’ve ever seen a Matchbox Abrams but i’ve heard of the T-80. According to my book the former is an old ESCI kit make under licence and the latter a somewhat “crippled” former Revell kit also marketed under a few other Brands.

@(md72) Mark,

FWIW, my vote is for the F-3D as I don’t recall ever seeing one of those.

@(Robbd01) Robbie,

Not too sure about the 232 kit but I built the Panzer II kit and it was really nice. I've seen the Panzer II's entered in a number of model shows over the years and these Matchbox versions are usually the base kit the builders use. The Wespe PK-77 uses a similar chassis and is also extremely nice.

Cheers,
--Jan
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 11:57 AM UTC
Fresh from Ebay and for less then 10 bucks each. I present to you my entries to this campaign.



Cheers
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 09:44 AM UTC
WOW, AJ, you're right, this has exploded. I feel challenged, do I do the F3D in White and dayglow, the SBC with yellow wings and rigging or try to complete my first ship since my teens?
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 08:50 AM UTC
WOW, I disappear for a while and this thread takes off for the moon? Anyway, I've enlisted and I'd like to take advantage of the "finish a shelf queen" campaign option. I know I did a 1/76 Challenger for the first Matchbox campaign but I've had a second one gathering dust for longer than I care to admit.



With a quick dusting, as it sits now.



I believe that I also have an M1 Abrams and a T-80 lurking somewhere in the house.

Regards,
AJ
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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - 07:58 AM UTC
Hi Matthew. Yes the Black, Maroon and chrome were the stock styrene colours. The only painted part was the engine block with a simple green base coat...


I envy you the Tank Transporter. Someone had 4 for sale on Evilbay for $20 AUD (about $15 USD) this week, but they were pick up only - 2000 km's from where I live

Opened up the Thunderbolt kit and was pleasantly surprised to see the decals look really good in this one. Sorely tempted to build it:



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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - 06:36 AM UTC

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Matchbox made 1/32 aircraft. A bubble top Spitfire 22/24 Me 109E-3, Lysander I/III Sea Venom, Dauntless dive bomber, Puma helicopter and Tiger moth.



Yes and marketed under the Matchbox label were the Bf-109g, FW-190 A-8, Spit VIII, F4U-1A Corsair that were ex-Otaki.


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What's a Lysander 30? That's the engine a pegasus 30 right?



Basically a Bristol Mercury 30 radial piston engine.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - 03:53 AM UTC
Matchbox made 1/32 aircraft. A bubble top Spitfire 22/24 Me 109E-3, Lysander I/III Sea Venom, Dauntless dive bomber, Puma helicopter and Tiger moth.

What's a Lysander 30? That's the engine a pegasus 30 right?

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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - 02:15 AM UTC
That's the spirit Matthew, show them "Mouldy Goldies"! Now where was that M-19 during the MNC? The PK-305 Surtees kit is not something that I've ever seen in shops around my area during Matchbox's Heyday Times. Most likely due to my general lack of interest in the civilian automotive sector/area of kits at the time. I rarely strayed from the air, land and sea militaria theme back then.

Just in passing for interests sake, did anyone know that Matchbox had advertised a line of 1/32 scale aircraft? According to the "Matchbox Bible", a Westland Mk 30 Lysander was supposed to be the first kit but alas never appeared but they did produce a stock Lysander kit PK-504 (this was released again under Revell).

Cheers,
-Jan
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Posted: Monday, September 17, 2018 - 08:54 AM UTC

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To keep "the excitement" about this campaign alive, here are a couple of pictures that I took ...



Pictures of my contrasting possibles:

1. Virtually mint PK-174, M-19 Tank Transporter 45 Tons. Only the yellowing sellotape and the price tag glue seems to give the age away. Clear window on the back intact showing the 100% untouched *3 colour* sprues. This is one dense kit box, just slightly deeper than the standard for the 2 colour kits, and the sprues are full, including the long slab of the base. It actually feels heavy for its size.



2. In contrast, slightly battered box of the Surtees TS16/03. Note the painting signature by yours truly. I'm guessing by the 88p price tag this might be slightly older vintage than your Citroen 11 Legere, Peter.



Slightly surprisingly, I see that this is really almost built. There's just a few bits left on the sprues. The problem is that the gloss white went horribly wrong, hence the abandonment at such a late stage. The engine actually looks almost OK, but there may be some parts missing, though it was bagged inside the box. Note the driver's foot, amputated to allow him to fit more easily, and note the in-box tweezers for inserting the wheel centres!

I have a feeling that by the time I painted the helmet I was already hacked off with it, and I made a half hearted attempt to sand the paint down on the car body, probably before the paint was completely set...


Peter, is your Citroen 2 colours plus the metalised sprue, or is some of it painted already?


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Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 02:19 AM UTC

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Maybe if I wash the Fruil set I have for the 1/35th scale version, then put them in the dryer on hot, they might shrink!



Well if they are the metal tracks then I'm afraid you are out of luck as metals' expanding and shrinking qualities are quite minimal. While I don't believe they have 1/76 Challenger tracks http://shop.okbgrigorov.com/ has a number of Braille Scale (The One True Scale) track sets and you might find something that could fit.

While Revell ideally should have the Challenger (PK-178) moulds, as far as I know they never released that kit as they had their own 1/72 version. Therefore I very much doubt they'd have any spare parts on hand for you to purchase. Perhaps you might find a cheap kit on EvilBay or something?

Cheers,
--Jan
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Posted: Saturday, September 15, 2018 - 04:47 PM UTC
Maybe if I wash the Fruil set I have for the 1/35th scale version, then put them in the dryer on hot, they might shrink!
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Posted: Saturday, September 15, 2018 - 01:07 PM UTC

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Okay then:

My Son reminded me he had a kit in his 'stash' that we bought at an exchange years ago. Now I remember why he never built it. See anything missing?

.....

How good are my scratch building skills I wonder.....



Okay, it’s kind of obvious, where are the tracks? Scratch them, better get started as they’ll take a while to build. I can take a picture if you need a reference.

Cheers,
—Jan
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Posted: Saturday, September 15, 2018 - 09:27 AM UTC

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As for our "Fearless Leader Pete" showing anything to do with the campaign theme it is vitally important to keep the excitement alive and flourishing.



Okay then:

My Son reminded me he had a kit in his 'stash' that we bought at an exchange years ago. Now I remember why he never built it. See anything missing?



How good are my scratch building skills I wonder.....