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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 - 05:53 PM UTC

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Hi again

Just a check-in to let you know I haven't been slacking. I must admit it's taken longer than I'd hoped to reshape the front, but I think it's pretty much there. I need to do a bit of work to tidy up the moulded-on chrome trim that's suffered since the kit's original release and scribe in a couple of missing panel lines and then, at last, it will be time to throw a primer coat at everything and see how bad things look!

All the best

Rowan



Excuses excuses...
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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 - 10:06 AM UTC

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Hi again

Just a check-in to let you know I haven't been slacking. I must admit it's taken longer than I'd hoped to reshape the front, but I think it's pretty much there. I need to do a bit of work to tidy up the moulded-on chrome trim that's suffered since the kit's original release and scribe in a couple of missing panel lines and then, at last, it will be time to throw a primer coat at everything and see how bad things look!

All the best

Rowan




Rowan,
Sure sounds like you're making excellent progress one step at a time.

Looking forward to seeing your B in a proper primer coat.

Joel
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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 - 09:38 AM UTC
Hi again

Just a check-in to let you know I haven't been slacking. I must admit it's taken longer than I'd hoped to reshape the front, but I think it's pretty much there. I need to do a bit of work to tidy up the moulded-on chrome trim that's suffered since the kit's original release and scribe in a couple of missing panel lines and then, at last, it will be time to throw a primer coat at everything and see how bad things look!

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Friday, December 28, 2018 - 03:13 AM UTC
Russ,
It's been a long time since I had my "B" from 1967-1970. From what I can remember (which isn't much these days), the default tires that came with the car were as I said; Dunlap SP-41 black walls, and the raised lettering is what you see on today's standard tire.

I have literally no idea where or how Aoshima came up with a SP-9 nor that racing type full size lettering that I've never saw on a sports car back then. I can't speak for other exported or British versions, but I highly doubt that they used a tire like that, nor that Dunlap even made one.

Those Dunlap's had a really soft compound and I went through them from time trials and just street racing (Yes, back then I was guilty of that as well), and bought the best tire for my B, the Pirelli Cinturato. Expensive to say the least, but worth every penny.

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Posted: Thursday, December 27, 2018 - 02:33 PM UTC
Here are some images of the Aoshima MG-B

https://gallery3.kitmaker.net/showphoto.php/photo/466946/ppuser/56345
https://gallery3.kitmaker.net/showphoto.php/photo/466945/ppuser/56345
https://gallery3.kitmaker.net/showphoto.php/photo/466947/ppuser/56345

Not sure why the tire image shows the way it does, it is black.

Russ
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Posted: Thursday, December 27, 2018 - 11:33 AM UTC
Joel,

The tires are Dunlop SP9 185SR14. I will try to post some pictures of the frame, tires and wheels. I think the wheels will work. I have been looking for alternative wire wheels for my Revell XKE. I only source I found was Fujimi wires but they are 17" and far too wide. I'm carving out some AMT skinnys and then cutting the wheel to the width of the tire, slow going. I tired post a query about wire wheels to the Auto forum but ended up on the general forum. I guess I do not know how to post to a specific forum.

Russ





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Posted: Thursday, December 27, 2018 - 09:31 AM UTC

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Joel,

Yes I'm disappointed with only right hand drive and no engine. There is a suspension, front disc brakes, and what looks like some type hydraulics next to the rear suspension. Having said that it should look good on the shelf. I've built several detailed engines before but for me if it has a hood it rarely gets opened. At least with aircraft cockpits you can see the effort that goes into them.

The Revell XKE I'm working on has an engine but the fit is such that I'd never open the hood and coming up with reasonable narrow wire wheels for is a real challenge. If I had your skill maybe I'd feel different but my detailed builds are few and far between the rest are subjects, aircraft, armor and cars that I'm interested in and look good on the shelf.

Cheers
Russ




Russ,
I see your points. but I'd sure have liked to make that decision and not the manufacture.

Oh well, I guess I'll get one and just do a curbside of my street car with the cheater roll bar. I will look for better wire wheels when the time comes. Please tell me that they molded Dunlap SP-41s, and no white walls.

Joel

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Posted: Thursday, December 27, 2018 - 09:27 AM UTC

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Hi Joel

Cheer up - I'm sure it will still be a huge improvement over the old Airfix kit! I sorted the area behind the headlamps last night and found some photos online to compare the lines against. Not too bad...

But then I noticed the shape of the wheel arches was wrong, the door handles may be in the wrong place and the way the bumpers fit into the bodywork is all wrong...

To be honest, I won't tackle any of those issues! Having realised just how much work you could put into rectifying and detailing this kit, I've decided I just want a nice clean, presentable build of a vintage model that bears a passing resemblance to an MGB! But - as promised - it definitely will be British Racing Green - which will only be fair to Warren too after all his help!

Re: your dismay over the lack of a right-hand drive option in the new kit, I was struck when looking at on-line shots of the interior that MG didn't shift the hand-brake for the US market... You lucky so-and-sos if you were out for a drive with a date! That must have been a great alibi for "accidentally" getting familiar...

All the best

Rowan



Rowan,
Thanks for the Pep talk. but this build(s) was going to be really special. Way more then just building a model, it's having a special time of my life come almost alive once again. I can close my eyes, and take apart the inline 4 bolt by bolt, or tune those duel SU carbs till all 4 cylinders were in perfect sync.

Honestly, I don't remember any issues with the hand brake. My girl back then never complained once


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Posted: Thursday, December 27, 2018 - 09:13 AM UTC
Joel,

Yes I'm disappointed with only right hand drive and no engine. There is a suspension, front disc brakes, and what looks like some type hydraulics next to the rear suspension. Having said that it should look good on the shelf. I've built several detailed engines before but for me if it has a hood it rarely gets opened. At least with aircraft cockpits you can see the effort that goes into them.

The Revell XKE I'm working on has an engine but the fit is such that I'd never open the hood and coming up with reasonable narrow wire wheels for is a real challenge. If I had your skill maybe I'd feel different but my detailed builds are few and far between the rest are subjects, aircraft, armor and cars that I'm interested in and look good on the shelf.

Cheers
Russ
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Posted: Thursday, December 27, 2018 - 09:07 AM UTC
Hi Joel

Cheer up - I'm sure it will still be a huge improvement over the old Airfix kit! I sorted the area behind the headlamps last night and found some photos online to compare the lines against. Not too bad...

But then I noticed the shape of the wheel arches was wrong, the door handles may be in the wrong place and the way the bumpers fit into the bodywork is all wrong...

To be honest, I won't tackle any of those issues! Having realised just how much work you could put into rectifying and detailing this kit, I've decided I just want a nice clean, presentable build of a vintage model that bears a passing resemblance to an MGB! But - as promised - it definitely will be British Racing Green - which will only be fair to Warren too after all his help!

Re: your dismay over the lack of a right-hand drive option in the new kit, I was struck when looking at on-line shots of the interior that MG didn't shift the hand-brake for the US market... You lucky so-and-sos if you were out for a drive with a date! That must have been a great alibi for "accidentally" getting familiar...

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Thursday, December 27, 2018 - 07:54 AM UTC

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My Aoshima MG-B arrived 5 days after ship date. At first glance it looks very nice. Curbside model with a solid hood. Right hand drive, with no option for left hand drive. There is no dip over the head lights. The wire wheels are one piece but have see through openings, may not look too bad after using a black wash.

Russ



Russ,
I've been waiting for this kit since the day it was announced. After your 1st impressions, I'm just so disappointed that words can't express my feelings. I should have known it was another damn curbside offering. Not even left hand drive is offered, and the USA was a major market. I had two B's and both were left hand drive.

What is wrong with all of these manufactures? To me, curbside is one step + up from a Snaptite kit. No engine/transmission, no suspension, no nothing. I wanted 3 kits, now I'm buying none. Even the old AMT & MPC kits had suspension, engines and transmissions. Some better then others, but the basics were there, and you could go to town on them to any level you wanted.
Today, even Tamiya rarely makes a closed wheel car with the same level of detail that they offer with open wheel cars. Even F1 cars with completely closed engines/transmission are still included as the body panels are removable. That's why all these kits are half the price of a fully detailed kit. And honestly, there isn't much to these kits unless you're only into painting and decaling.

Joel
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Posted: Thursday, December 27, 2018 - 07:28 AM UTC
My Aoshima MG-B arrived 5 days after ship date. At first glance it looks very nice. Curbside model with a solid hood. Right hand drive, with no option for left hand drive. There is no dip over the head lights. The wire wheels are one piece but have see through openings, may not look too bad after using a black wash.

Russ
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Posted: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 - 08:45 AM UTC
Hi Warren

Thanks for the confirmation. I'll start getting rid of the flare.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 - 07:26 AM UTC
Yes Rowan. There is no flare. It is a smooth line from the windscreen down to the top of the light. I never realised how nice a shape the MGB was until I got one. Rubber bumper ones excluded!..
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 - 10:25 PM UTC
Hi again Warren

Many thanks for the shots of the engine. Sorry - I missed them last night because later posts had pushed them off the screen.

They certainly prove just how empty it is under the Airfix kit's bonnet. It would really need a scratch-build to get the shape of the bay itself right before even starting on the engine. So, I'll just add a few basics and call it "good enough" - otherwise I'll never get the model built!

Here are a couple of shots of the area behind the headlight. It's hard to show in photos, but there's a distinct flare which I don't think is correct:





I need to sort out the nasty mould-lines (with accompanying sink marks ) beside the opening for the bonnet too.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 - 10:35 AM UTC

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Sweet ride. And of course it's British Racing Green.



Thanks Mark.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 - 09:42 AM UTC
Hi Warren

I think that photo pretty much answers the question, but I'll take a shot of the area on the kit tomorrow. It's literally right behind each headlight and gives a bit of a "Penelope Pitstop" look to the front end - cute, but I don't think it's right.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 - 09:32 AM UTC
Sweet ride. And of course it's British Racing Green.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 - 09:26 AM UTC
Does this help?

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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 - 09:21 AM UTC

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Photos coming Rowan.



Cheers Warren.

I've got one more request (it maybe doesn't need a photo) - the kit has a little dip with a turn-up on each front wing behind the headlight. As far as I can see from photos, it should be a smooth curve all the way from the windscreen forwards. Could you confirm that one way or another?

I suspect it's a sinkage problem on the kit (there are other definite sink marks nearby), but both kit wings match and it's neat enough to look possibly deliberate. I just want to check it's not a feature on the real car before I reshape it.

All the best

Rowan



Can you upload a photo of the problem area? It should be smooth EXCEPT for the air vent and the badge in the middle of the bonnet leading edge.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 - 08:45 AM UTC
As requested, MGB engine bay..













Note this one has a few changes;
1. The small white bottle on the firewall is a reservoir for adding a special chemical replacing the lead in new fuel.
2. Their are braided lines going to the oil cooler rather than rubber.
3. I installed a thermatic fan a few months ago.

That's it. Note the cooling fan is yellow.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 - 08:43 AM UTC

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Photos coming Rowan.



Cheers Warren.

I've got one more request (it maybe doesn't need a photo) - the kit has a little dip with a turn-up on each front wing behind the headlight. As far as I can see from photos, it should be a smooth curve all the way from the windscreen forwards. Could you confirm that one way or another?

I suspect it's a sinkage problem on the kit (there are other definite sink marks nearby), but both kit wings match and it's neat enough to look possibly deliberate. I just want to check it's not a feature on the real car before I reshape it.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 - 07:30 AM UTC

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Ah, a white Japanese drop top. My confusion is obvious.



The Toyota 2000GT is about twice the size of the Honda. Did you know the Honda has chain drive?

Photos coming Rowan.
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Ah, a white Japanese drop top. My confusion is obvious.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 - 04:40 AM UTC
Rowan,
It's not a proper MGB, but it's a 2 seater. Looking forward to your build of it.
Joel