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The italian job - heavy cruiser ZARA 1:350
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Posted: Monday, July 29, 2019 - 05:12 AM UTC
Great job Thomas,

A very elegant looking cruiser. do take care with the rigging, looking forward to seeing her finished.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, July 28, 2019 - 11:50 PM UTC
Thomas,

She's a beautiful looking ship, very nice work you performed on this kit. Good luck with the rigging and hope you don't knock anything off.

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, July 28, 2019 - 08:23 PM UTC
Bravo, Thomas!!
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Posted: Sunday, July 28, 2019 - 12:36 PM UTC
Thomas this ship looks great, well done!! Display it with pride.
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Posted: Sunday, July 28, 2019 - 09:50 AM UTC
Totally agree with what Jan said, Thomas.

She's looking really fine and those Italians sure had some different ideas about building ships, but does make it interesting!

As for the rigging, I always like to think of them as powerlines: you can't see every detail, but you can see that they are there; thus even if you only put in the basics lines, it is more than enough to convey that it's there
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Posted: Sunday, July 28, 2019 - 07:31 AM UTC
Brilliant work, Thomas!

She looks just outstanding, with your clean and crisp work! Fantastic!

And a very interesting ship, pretty unique way to build ships, but she definitely has a cool look to her!

Be careful not to break anything when you're doing the rigging...

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Sunday, July 28, 2019 - 12:12 AM UTC
Hello,

after spraypainting, bending and glueing a lot of railings, stakes (veery fragile affair), some last stairs, the stern flagpole and small Davits for the boarding ladders and the aft lifeboats it´s done - well almost... just the rigging is missing now. Some short pictures for you to see the latest state of construction

















Now the rigging is following. Trumpeter, unlike Hasegawa, don´t provide you a rigging diagram. I also don´t have any books about this ship so this time I am completely dependent on salvaged pics of the real ship from the Internet and the boxart. I will nevertheless try my best. Need to wake up my spiders now...
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Posted: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 - 05:53 AM UTC

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Moin Thomas!

While Si is absolutely correct on the signals in general, this is not what your red and green shapes indicate.

You find them on most older (=WWI, WWII etc. ) vessels, and they indicate the rudder angel. Before you had gyro repeaters and all kinds of fancy intercom all over the ships, this was the means to show the crew, especially the gunners, the ordered rudder angel and hence the direction, in which the ship was to turn momentarily, so they were prepared for the turn and could adjust accordingly.
Both equal hight = rudder amidships, green up, red down = rudder to starboard etc. Hight difference between the signals as a measure for rudder angle.
No precision instrument, but more than nothing...

Cheers,
Jan



Moin Jan! Thank you for the educated explanation - I knew I can count on you

Beste Grüße
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 05:36 PM UTC
And great job on your bridge, and the ZARA in general - she looks awesome my friend, another fantastic job. Your attention to detail, rigging and your PE work is truly inspiring!!

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 05:30 PM UTC
Moin Thomas!

While Si is absolutely correct on the signals in general, this is not what your red and green shapes indicate.

You find them on most older (=WWI, WWII etc. ) vessels, and they indicate the rudder angel. Before you had gyro repeaters and all kinds of fancy intercom all over the ships, this was the means to show the crew, especially the gunners, the ordered rudder angel and hence the direction, in which the ship was to turn momentarily, so they were prepared for the turn and could adjust accordingly.
Both equal hight = rudder amidships, green up, red down = rudder to starboard etc. Hight difference between the signals as a measure for rudder angle.
No precision instrument, but more than nothing...

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 07:20 AM UTC

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I am afraid I can't help with Italian WW2 signals Thomas, but shapes are still used today under the International regulations for the prevention if collision at sea to indicate a ships condition.

For example a ball at the Foremast would indicate a the ship was at Anchor.

Two balls shown vertically from the mainmast, not under command, etc.

There some for fishing vessels, minesweepers and that sort of things, they are shown in daylight to back up lights which would not be as visible.

Cheers

Si



Thank you for your Input Si! These shapes seem to show up at different ships of various nations. I have pictures of the IJN cruiser TAMA who have the same two signs in the same colors. There is also a picture of Imperial german light cruiser Dresden which have cones in green and red.

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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 07:02 AM UTC
I am afraid I can't help with Italian WW2 signals Thomas, but shapes are still used today under the International regulations for the prevention if collision at sea to indicate a ships condition.

For example a ball at the Foremast would indicate a the ship was at Anchor.

Two balls shown vertically from the mainmast, not under command, etc.

There some for fishing vessels, minesweepers and that sort of things, they are shown in daylight to back up lights which would not be as visible.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 04:02 AM UTC
I continued work on smaller parts. I installed some nautical signals at the stern mast but have no clue what they are intended for. Can some nautical experts enlighten me? Kapitänleutnant Jan?



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Posted: Sunday, July 21, 2019 - 09:49 AM UTC
very tidy work on the railings, Thomas, building up into a very impressive Assembly!
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Posted: Sunday, July 21, 2019 - 06:00 AM UTC
Great work on the Bridge Thomas,

The etch adds a huge amount of depth to the bridge structure.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Saturday, July 20, 2019 - 01:08 PM UTC
Thomas,

Very nice job getting all those components together. She is really shaping up nicely.

Mark
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Posted: Saturday, July 20, 2019 - 09:33 AM UTC
Brilliant work, Thomas!
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Posted: Saturday, July 20, 2019 - 08:10 AM UTC
Thank you again for your applause


Today I was able to finish the bridge compartment - working on it during the whole last week. First I spraypainted the barley grey basic color, after that I painted all floors in Navy blue again. The windows were made with trusty Kristal Klear.





Then I painted, prebended and glued on all the railings. After that I installed all the smaller and the four main beams. Very careful and accurate work is necessary here for a perfect fit of the top rangefinder platform later. I had to improvise here...







The lowest platform got its railings before I installed the completed bridge compartment



With a steady hand I glued on the bridge compartment and the frontal armored bridge and its rangefinder. This was the most demanding part for me of the whole build as the beams later on have to fit properly - two beams were not movable later and I had to shorten them for a proper fit of the top platform. Luckily nothing is visible of that now anymore. This is how the completed platform with some of its stairways already installed









and a final top view



Now the ship has its face almost done. There are just some stairways and all the railings to be made. 90 percent done


Away for one beer now
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2019 - 11:53 AM UTC
Wow!
That's just fantastic clean and tidy work!! Great job!

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2019 - 09:40 AM UTC
Thomas,

Very clean work, nice.

Mark
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2019 - 09:25 AM UTC
Some very fine and tidy work Thomas
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2019 - 07:25 AM UTC
Nice complex looking assembly, tidy brass work Thomas.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2019 - 07:14 AM UTC
@Gaz, Mark, Russel, Mark and Jan - thank you very much for your positive feedback

I continued painting the bridge floor and installing the railings after it - pictures following shortly.

The bridge´s uppermost rangefinder was also improved with some very fragile PE-parts and will be painted after these pictures:





Cheers
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Posted: Saturday, July 13, 2019 - 06:39 AM UTC
Thomas,

I apologize once again for not commenting more regularly, real life is taking its toll and I am spending much less time with my hobby and here with all your fine work on MSW.

What everybody said - you are doing a splendid job!!! Many of the tasks you accomplished here remained of my Hood - the lengthy ladders up the masts, railing on small and difficult shaped platforms...well my friend, you are doing a great job, hats off to you!!

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - 09:54 PM UTC
Love the progress you have attained so far Thomas.....Cheers mark