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USS Ranger CV4, Norway 1943 - 1/350
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Posted: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - 08:34 AM UTC

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Si,

Nice progress. There is some very nice detail that came with this kit.

Mark



Thanks Mark,

It is nice to have a decent bit of detail inside the hanger in the kit, and rather well moulded.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - 08:32 AM UTC

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Great to see we're going to be able to view some of that lovely internal detail Si!

The decals came out nicely even though frustratingly oversize...



Thanks Russ,

They did cause a bit of getting them on. The decal for centre elevator will be less trouble as it is fixed up.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 - 12:31 AM UTC
Si,

Nice progress. There is some very nice detail that came with this kit.

Mark
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Posted: Monday, February 24, 2020 - 08:28 AM UTC
Great to see we're going to be able to view some of that lovely internal detail Si!

The decals came out nicely even though frustratingly oversize...
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Posted: Monday, February 24, 2020 - 07:34 AM UTC
A little progress over the weekend.

I have decided to be a bit liberal with the configuration, the forward and after lifts will be down, I wildcat should fit on the after lift and a dauntless forward. the last aircraft coming up for the first strike.

The lifts painted, and their decaled.

The decals were "fun", slightly oversized, which meant they needed cutting in eight places to get any sort of a fit.



Not perfect, but they will be hidden under aircraft.

Fitted down.



The internal structure sprayed white, and the crane track picked out in steel and given an oily wash.



fitted in place.





The view of the structure.





Next, on with the external details.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Friday, February 21, 2020 - 10:03 PM UTC

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Si,

Slightly off topic but I was just wondering if you've had the chance to eyeball the new USS Langley CV-1 by Trumpeter yet?




Hi Andrew,

I haven't yet seen it in the plastic, but there is a review of the kit and the Trumpeter upgrade seton the new contents page on this site.

Most of it looks pretty good, personally I'm not fond the solid plastic girder structure. I get why Trumpeter have done this as fragile, tricky to fold etched structures aren't for everybody.

The Trumpeter upgrade looks rather good but I will be waiting to see what other aftermarket comes out before I invest.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, February 21, 2020 - 12:35 PM UTC
Si,

Slightly off topic but I was just wondering if you've had the chance to eyeball the new USS Langley CV-1 by Trumpeter yet?

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Posted: Monday, February 17, 2020 - 05:24 AM UTC

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No pressure at all Simon. I am as interested in this build as you are. Ranger is one of my favorites, next to Lexington (CV2) of course.



Thanks you Chuck,

Glad to have you aboard.

No progress this weekend, limited time at the work table, decided rather than shift everything downstairs, concentrate on the build closest to finishing. - Mikasa.

Hope to get more time next weekend.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Saturday, February 15, 2020 - 04:10 PM UTC
No pressure at all Simon. I am as interested in this build as you are. Ranger is one of my favorites, next to Lexington (CV2) of course.
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Posted: Saturday, February 15, 2020 - 10:38 AM UTC

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Keep in mind Simon, I can't verify she carried RNGR at Norway, but I also cannot eliminate the possibility either, not with the evidence in general circulation.

There is a book out on Ranger that I have seen, but do not own, From what I have heard it is a comprehensive history of the ship with quite a few photos. Might be worth checking into at your local library. It is titled "USS Ranger, The Navy's First Flattop From Keel To Mast 1934-1946" The authors name is Roger Cressman.

UPDATE: Ran across a picture of Ranger this morning (Saturday) dated 3 January 1943 (the day before I was born) that has no RNGR markings on the flight deck. There are the normal dashed lines running fore and aft on the flight deck, but they are so faded (worn) that they are almost impossible to see, and I cannot tell what color was used for them. My guess would be a darker blue or black to contrast with the flight deck stain.



Hi Chuck,

Appreciate the info Mate, I wasn't intending to put you under pressure, just sharing something that I had found. My apologies if I came over a bit "know all", research on a less well known vessel is always tricky.

Will have a look for that book, at the very least it will be an interesting read.

Always appreciate you looking in.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Friday, February 14, 2020 - 09:47 AM UTC
Keep in mind Simon, I can't verify she carried RNGR at Norway, but I also cannot eliminate the possibility either, not with the evidence in general circulation.

There is a book out on Ranger that I have seen, but do not own, From what I have heard it is a comprehensive history of the ship with quite a few photos. Might be worth checking into at your local library. It is titled "USS Ranger, The Navy's First Flattop From Keel To Mast 1934-1946" The authors name is Roger Cressman.

UPDATE: Ran across a picture of Ranger this morning (Saturday) dated 3 January 1943 (the day before I was born) that has no RNGR markings on the flight deck. There are the normal dashed lines running fore and aft on the flight deck, but they are so faded (worn) that they are almost impossible to see, and I cannot tell what color was used for them. My guess would be a darker blue or black to contrast with the flight deck stain.
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Posted: Friday, February 14, 2020 - 08:20 AM UTC

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Leaving one up might be nice for us to be able to peer inside the flight deck of Simon's outstanding model, but it would not be so nice for the sailors on that deck off Norway in October.



Likely not Chuck, the shutters being wouldn't be fun either.

Going back to the topic of "RNGR" on the stern, found a photograph on Navsource dated August '42, looks to be in Haze grey or a similar colour, certainly before Leader as the ship still had quad 1.1". I reckon I might have some RAF code letters in medium see grey about the right size that will be close enough.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, February 14, 2020 - 08:13 AM UTC

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Pity they will be up.

More soon.

Cheers

Si




Come on Si, you know you want to leave one down, so we can see all that lovely interior detail...



Yeeeeess, show us the pretties...



Hi Russ, Mark & Rory.

well, the plan is to have the first strike of Operation Leader spotted on deck ready for launch, and the funnels in the lowered position. From what I have read the funnels were lowered just before the strike was launched.

A thought has occurred, perhaps either a dauntless on the lowered midhips elevator, the last one to come up, or a Wildcat on the aft elevator in the same position.

Will think on that.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 - 06:10 AM UTC
Leaving one up might be nice for us to be able to peer inside the flight deck of Simon's outstanding model, but it would not be so nice for the sailors on that deck off Norway in October.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 - 02:28 AM UTC

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Pity they will be up.

More soon.

Cheers

Si




Come on Si, you know you want to leave one down, so we can see all that lovely interior detail...



Yeeeeess, show us the pretties...
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 - 03:03 PM UTC

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Pity they will be up.

More soon.

Cheers

Si




Come on Si, you know you want to leave one down, so we can see all that lovely interior detail...



Russell is right you gotta leave one of them down.

Mark
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 - 10:09 AM UTC

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Pity they will be up.

More soon.

Cheers

Si




Come on Si, you know you want to leave one down, so we can see all that lovely interior detail...
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 - 09:25 AM UTC
A bit of progress this weekend, not in the mood for 15 life raft racks decided to crack on with the internal structure of the hanger. The kit provides some nice transverse beams and some longitudinal sections that I would assume are overhead crane tracks.

Test fitting the first transverse beam.



A bit long.

Fixed, gentle sanding off both ends to keep the location point for the longitudinal central.



The after section assembled.



Test fitted in place.



All built and sitting in place.





The deck test fitted.



All good, and some of the detail will be visible through the open shutters.

Better view through the elevators.



Pity they will be up.

More soon.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 - 09:02 AM UTC

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Getting back to your fabulous build, I was inspired to consider adding a US CV (Enterprise) to the stash, but after seeing the prices they're at, I'm going to have to live vicariously through yours



I wanted to do the same thing except do a CV-6 AND CVN-65. However they are so damn pricy. And CVN-65 is huge. Over a meter long. I definitely don't have the space for that





Pity mate in your hands they would look splendid.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, February 07, 2020 - 10:21 AM UTC

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Getting back to your fabulous build, I was inspired to consider adding a US CV (Enterprise) to the stash, but after seeing the prices they're at, I'm going to have to live vicariously through yours



I wanted to do the same thing except do a CV-6 AND CVN-65. However they are so damn pricy. And CVN-65 is huge. Over a meter long. I definitely don't have the space for that
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Posted: Friday, February 07, 2020 - 09:27 AM UTC

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Hi Si

just wanted to say, that I saw Midway on Tuesday night. Having waited months for its release I was not disappointed. In fact, I haven't enjoyed a film so much as I did on Tuesday in years!

It was everything I thought it would be: fairly accurate historically; good plot; characters well portrayed; and importantly ships and planes and then even more ships and planes! And the action sequences put you right in the thick of it!

I can highly recommend it!

Getting back to your fabulous build, I was inspired to consider adding a US CV (Enterprise) to the stash, but after seeing the prices they're at, I'm going to have to live vicariously through yours



Hi Russ,

I have heard good things about Midway from others, who's opinion I also respect. Missed at the cinema over here, but will definitely pick it up for the workshop collection when it comes out on DVD.

The issue I am having, I saw the 1/200th Yorktown up at Telford, that was way over budget, but I was really tempted.

Glad you are enjoying the build.

Cheers

Si



Yep, I too will be adding that one to the movie collection: here's hoping for a director's cut extended edition

I feel your pain: although 1/200 kits aren't my thing, but seeing the prices for 1/350 CV-5/6 from Merit/Trumpeter ($350AUD) and the Infini AM ($350AUD) throw in a wood deck ($100AUD) and suddenly there goes the family's yearly camping trip! 1/200 may just be the price of a small car!




Hi Russ,

Let's hope so, it will fit in well with my workshop DVD collection.

The Mikasa has drawn into the scale, there will be a few more builds coming up, and 1/144th.

as for Yorktown, by the time you add the a decent upgrade set, the extra aircraft for a full midway outfit and their aftermarket, small car Mate for that lot you get a decent SUV!

Ah well I can dream.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 10:44 AM UTC

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Hi Si

just wanted to say, that I saw Midway on Tuesday night. Having waited months for its release I was not disappointed. In fact, I haven't enjoyed a film so much as I did on Tuesday in years!

It was everything I thought it would be: fairly accurate historically; good plot; characters well portrayed; and importantly ships and planes and then even more ships and planes! And the action sequences put you right in the thick of it!

I can highly recommend it!

Getting back to your fabulous build, I was inspired to consider adding a US CV (Enterprise) to the stash, but after seeing the prices they're at, I'm going to have to live vicariously through yours



Hi Russ,

I have heard good things about Midway from others, who's opinion I also respect. Missed at the cinema over here, but will definitely pick it up for the workshop collection when it comes out on DVD.

The issue I am having, I saw the 1/200th Yorktown up at Telford, that was way over budget, but I was really tempted.

Glad you are enjoying the build.

Cheers

Si



Yep, I too will be adding that one to the movie collection: here's hoping for a director's cut extended edition

I feel your pain: although 1/200 kits aren't my thing, but seeing the prices for 1/350 CV-5/6 from Merit/Trumpeter ($350AUD) and the Infini AM ($350AUD) throw in a wood deck ($100AUD) and suddenly there goes the family's yearly camping trip! 1/200 may just be the price of a small car!
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Posted: Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 10:18 AM UTC

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Hi Si

just wanted to say, that I saw Midway on Tuesday night. Having waited months for its release I was not disappointed. In fact, I haven't enjoyed a film so much as I did on Tuesday in years!

It was everything I thought it would be: fairly accurate historically; good plot; characters well portrayed; and importantly ships and planes and then even more ships and planes! And the action sequences put you right in the thick of it!

I can highly recommend it!

Getting back to your fabulous build, I was inspired to consider adding a US CV (Enterprise) to the stash, but after seeing the prices they're at, I'm going to have to live vicariously through yours



Hi Russ,

I have heard good things about Midway from others, who's opinion I also respect. Missed at the cinema over here, but will definitely pick it up for the workshop collection when it comes out on DVD.

The issue I am having, I saw the 1/200th Yorktown up at Telford, that was way over budget, but I was really tempted.

Glad you are enjoying the build.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 08:47 AM UTC
Hi Si

just wanted to say, that I saw Midway on Tuesday night. Having waited months for its release I was not disappointed. In fact, I haven't enjoyed a film so much as I did on Tuesday in years!

It was everything I thought it would be: fairly accurate historically; good plot; characters well portrayed; and importantly ships and planes and then even more ships and planes! And the action sequences put you right in the thick of it!

I can highly recommend it!

Getting back to your fabulous build, I was inspired to consider adding a US CV (Enterprise) to the stash, but after seeing the prices they're at, I'm going to have to live vicariously through yours
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Posted: Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 06:37 AM UTC

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Simon: As you have time to do so, would you mind posting brand of paint and specific color for the hull and hanger deck.

In addition, what plans do you have to weather the flight deck. It was probably well worn as far as finish goes since Ranger's last period of upkeep.

I should also add that there is a photo floating around in cyberspace, can't recall where I saw it, that shows Ranger with its distinctive RNGR at the stern end of the flight deck the way she wore the letters in peacetime.Can't really tell what the color is, but it does not appear to be yellow. The Norway operation was in 43, and it was only in late 43 that U S carriers started to display their hull numbers on flight decks in subdued colors. Don't know if this information (the RNGR) applies to Ranger at Norway or not, but it might be worth checking out. Tracy White on Steel Navy may know.



Hi Chuck,

The hull is Lifecolor Sea Blue 5S, Tamiya TS32 Haze grey and Lifecolor deck blue.

I have some lifecolor flight deck blue stain amongst the paints somewhere, I will let you know exactly when I find it.

I will weather the flight deck, but not too heavily.

Cheers

Si