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Albatros born with teeth...
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Posted: Monday, August 18, 2003 - 08:51 AM UTC
Hi all

I was inspired the other day by rotc_wildcat's etched machine gun, so I took the plunge and nicked a pair from Eduard's Fokker DVI to add to my AoA Albatros DV.

A WW1 buff can probably spot a million mistakes, but (with a distinct lack of refernces...) they seem a lot better detailed than the original plastic items...



All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, August 18, 2003 - 02:39 PM UTC
very nice porky(sorry can't not say it,how bout I just call you rowan and forget both names
#:-) ) remember when painting to have little brass knobs on the cocking levers. once again very nice!
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Posted: Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:22 PM UTC

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very nice porky(sorry can't not say it,how bout I just call you rowan and forget both names
#:-) )



Hi Dave

"Rowan" is fine by me!! When I joined up, the call-sign business caught me a little off guard, which is probably why I messed up!

Thanks for the tip about the brass - I was about to paint everything "gunmetal"...

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, August 18, 2003 - 06:33 PM UTC

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Overall how do you rate those Eduard biplane kits? For my next old wood and canvas flying maching I want to try something much easier than the Blue Max kit I'm working on now.



Hi Wildcat :-)

The latest Eduard kits are probably the best, most user-friendly WW1 kits out there... the Camel (due out in the UK this week) looks awesome on their website!! :-) :-)

The older kits are another matter ... the plastic parts are much more "short-run" in quality and smaller parts are included as etched brass - even when this isn't really the best medium! On the plus side - it's from one of those kits that I nicked these guns... :-)

The best bet is to look for Profi-pack versions of the new models - etched metal details to add to an already good kit. :-)

I saw a load of Blue Max kits on sale last week, but resisted the temptation... if you're having trouble, maybe it was just as well...

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 08:26 AM UTC
:-) Rowan, those cooling jackets sure make a difference :-) Looking good :-)
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2003 - 09:34 AM UTC
Hi again

Despite the best efforts of the Gremlins, (which included breaking and losing some parts!), I've re-build (see the Campaign folder) and managed to get the first coat of paint on... :-)



The etched metal parts are no problem... keeping the Gremlins hands' off this kit is doing my head in!!

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 08:13 AM UTC
:-) Rowan, what colour have you used on those guns?
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 08:35 AM UTC

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:-) Rowan, what colour have you used on those guns?
Mal



Hi Mal,

Well there not finished yet...

But the best reference I've found so far is spandau guns

They look basically gunmetal... I've just tried a coat of Testors "burnt metal" which shows promise...

Hope this helps

Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 09:24 AM UTC
:-) Yep looking good. It's surprising how flimsy the real thing looks
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Posted: Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 09:33 AM UTC
Yeah!! the actual barrel is so thin... if I'd only checked this link first... oh well :-)
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:04 AM UTC
Not to rain on any parades, but Spandaus (don't know about Parabellums) were delivered in a gloss black enamel finish (probably semi-gloss in any scale other than 1:1).
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 07:07 PM UTC

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Spandaus (don't know about Parabellums) were delivered in a gloss black enamel finish (probably semi-gloss in any scale other than 1:1).



Cheers ZoomieE7 :-)

Don't aplogize for rain, when it helps things grow right!! :-)

Fantastic, I was looking at the photos on that web page again, and trying to tell if it was black paint or really dull gunmetal. There seem to be two colours - the body of the gun is definitely black, the rear and left side maybe very dark metal... of course this example might not be in 100% original finish... (90+ years of wear and tear!)

I'd already decided to darken things up a lot :-) - now I know to go the whole hog!!! :-) :-)

Thanks again

Rowan
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:21 PM UTC
what scale is your albatros? im building a 1/72 one for the aoa and you,ve scared me with those guns.im using a p/e set which has those replacement jackets but havent got round to making them yet. this forum has been helpful because i was gonna paint them alaminium and use black pastels.i can just paint them now in one operation
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Posted: Monday, August 25, 2003 - 12:37 AM UTC

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what scale is your albatros? im building a 1/72 one for the aoa and you,ve scared me with those guns



Hi almonkey

Well these guns are 1/144th scale... sorry just kidding!! :-)

I'm building Eduard's 1/48 DV, but the guns are basically pinched from their old Fokker DVI (it's a long story...).

1/72 scale photo-etched barrels should look amazing! :-) Show us some pics when you can...

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 12:52 AM UTC
1/44!!!!!!!!! you got me there! literally have put the guns together half hour ago p/e mesh jackets, rest is original kit part.i,ll try to put pictures up but need help to do it (i,m not to computer literate)