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WnW Bristol F.2b
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 06:14 AM UTC
Wow that's just incredible! I can't wait to see more.
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Posted: Sunday, February 25, 2018 - 12:45 AM UTC
Hello all!

Well after not posting for a bit I can now should how much has been done on the Bristol! Really isn’t a lot...but It felt like a lot!

Fuselage is together and painted. Decals are on as well. I then set to getting the tail control rigging sorted....very time consuming project lol






I am letting the superglue cure overnight just to be sure. I will go beck and paint the cables and turn buckles after.
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Posted: Sunday, February 25, 2018 - 10:39 AM UTC
Wow! --just wow! How did you simulate the turnbuckles? They look great.
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Posted: Monday, February 26, 2018 - 06:04 AM UTC
They are made with Albion Alloys micro brass tube and fine copper wire
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Posted: Monday, February 26, 2018 - 09:30 AM UTC
I've got a small stockof Albion tube-- that I've been saving for just such a purpose-- can you pass on your technique? I've seen a lot of examples, ncluding Des Delatorres, but yours is superb.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 03:18 AM UTC
Ok...

Here goes.....

The copper wire I loosely fold in half and clamp in a metal cloths pin. With the tool I made I hook the copper wire. Pull slightly and keep tension on the wire....spin the tool until the eyelet is formed. Slide off and cut the eyelet off leaving enough for it to be glued to the model or into the brass tube.




The brass tube I drilled out with a 0.36mm drill bit. This makes it easier for the EZ Line to past through. Also big enough to glue the eyelets into.


Next I inserted a piece of a worn out 0.36mm drill bit into the brass tube. Measure out the length of tubing you need. With your hobby knife apply a small amount of pressure on the tube and roll it back and forth until you cut through it. The old drill bit in the tube is to keep the tube from crushing. once cut through it should separate easily



Now to finish...Dab a little superglue in both ends on the small piece of tubing then insert the previously made and cut eyelets into the ends.


There you go! One finished double ended turnbuckle!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 03:21 AM UTC
If you would like more info on making eyelets and turnbuckles check out ww1aircraftmodels.com. Awesome site! Lots of good info there!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 03:42 AM UTC
Chris-- yes that's Des Delatorre's site (wwiaircraftmodels.com --unfortunately Des passed away in January-- I hope someone continues his excellent website) and that's his technique for making turnbuckles for sure. But I was wondering how you joined multiple buckles together for the control wires-- I think I see a bead or a joint of some kind in there? I think the real thing uses a brass bead or ball between the turnbuckles--your's looks very realistic.
VR, Russ
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 04:22 AM UTC
Ok I see where your going! All it is is a very small section of brass tube. I pass the Ez Line through it then through an eyelet on the turnbuckle then back through the small brass tube then a small drop of superglue. After it dries I trim back the excess line coming out of the small tube.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 04:40 AM UTC
Chris--Aha! it looks great. Your tutorial is great too, I forgot to mention and thank you for that. I'm going to try your method on my F2B when I get around to building it. Keep working--I cant wait to see the finished product!
VR, Russ
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 05:13 AM UTC
No problem and thank you sir! I’m in the process of putting eyelets in the wings at the moment. Then the real fun is about to begin!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 05:23 AM UTC
Chris-- You know WnW has RAF "Flat" aerodynamic rigging right? It stretches like EZ line. I'm experimenting with some "Flat" Nylon fly-fishing line, brand name "Slickshooter", which has a lot of promise too. Unfortunately, the fishing line comes in a bright blue, and the WnW stuff is silver-white (although it looks good once it's in place).
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 05:54 AM UTC
I will have a look into that fishing line. And yes I knew about the line from Wingnuts.....might need to get some for this project or the next. Thanks again!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 06:02 AM UTC
Chris, thank you so very much for this tutorial. I now have some idea how to make those dreaded turnbuckles.

Bob
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 06:29 AM UTC

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I will have a look into that fishing line. And yes I knew about the line from Wingnuts.....might need to get some for this project or the next. Thanks again!



Chris-- it's called Rio Slickshooter. The 25lb (smallest they make) is slightly less than 1mm wide (.012 inches to be exact). It comes in a 115 foot roll. It supposedly has no memory when stretched-- which makes it ideal for rigging. I found that with heat applied with a thread burner form Micro Mark, it snaps tightly into position just like Nylon fishing line. But, since it's uniformly wide throughout its length, finding a way to attach it to a turnbuckle is the problem. I suppose a wire could be passed directly through it on one end, and it could be pulled taught on the other end, but it would have to be pretty close to the length desired before positioning and heating. I still haven't worked that out yet. Keeping it at the right position/attitude in relation to other wires might also be a challenge, but I believe it could be overcome with patience. It looks just like RAF flying wire (in 1/32 scale--it'd be too wide for any scale less than that) except its blue. I bought two 25lb test rolls for about $38 USD. If you go to look at it on-line at the Rio website, don't pay attention to the diagram which is not drawn to scale-- and looks way big. It truly is slightly less than 1mm in width, with a flat yet oval flying wire cross section.
VR, Russ
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Posted: Friday, March 02, 2018 - 11:37 PM UTC
Hello all,


A little more progress.......turnbuckles made and added to the lower wing...



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Posted: Friday, March 16, 2018 - 02:26 AM UTC
Hello everyone!


Well the rigging is all done. Next will be the Matt coat and weathering and small details.



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Posted: Saturday, March 17, 2018 - 09:47 AM UTC
Most impressive.
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2018 - 07:53 PM UTC
I think you have a contest winner in progress (CWIP)

I have this in my stash. It has been pulled out of the stash a few times, then lovingly returned. If I could do it as well as yours, I would start it. Great job.
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Posted: Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 06:23 PM UTC
Hello all,

Thank you Captain A! I turned my attention to then engine. I added spark plugs and wires. Also made new valve springs.....



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Posted: Friday, March 30, 2018 - 05:12 PM UTC
Morning all,

Spark plug wiring all done.



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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2018 - 03:05 AM UTC
Hello all,

A little more progress....still need to finish the final engine assembly then weathering...





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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2018 - 06:48 PM UTC
Morning everyone!

Well the Falcon is ready for install. Finished the weathering. I didn’t want to go overboard on it. Just enough to make it “pop”. Well at least that what I think lol



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Posted: Friday, April 06, 2018 - 11:12 PM UTC
It definately "Pops"!
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Posted: Saturday, April 07, 2018 - 01:41 AM UTC
Yep, really, really nice work. Makes me want to pull my F2B out and start working-- I would if I didn't have 10 other projects (not kidding) on the bench-- can't afford another--I have no work space left! but your craftsmanship and talent are inspiring!
VR, Russ