login   |    register
Early Aviation
Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
WNW Rumpler C.IV build
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Member Since: March 10, 2010
entire network: 2,568 Posts
KitMaker Network: 126 Posts
Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 03:50 AM UTC
Russell, have to admit I've not looked at them but will have to I think.
I have Sheridan's Flying Tiger boxing and the other which included the Black Omega scheme. There's also a couple of built but unpainted ones somewhere I got cheap from a guy who built them for use with his Warhammer game but lost interest. Really must dig them out and do those kits justice one day.
That's really nice, the Starfury looks really sinister in the all over black!


Stephen, thanks for following. Yes I'm using EZ Line. Seemed to work really well when I tried it between a piece of sprue.
RussellE
#306
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Member Since: June 27, 2010
entire network: 3,956 Posts
KitMaker Network: 35 Posts
Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 10:03 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Russell, have to admit I've not looked at them but will have to I think.
I have Sheridan's Flying Tiger boxing and the other which included the Black Omega scheme. There's also a couple of built but unpainted ones somewhere I got cheap from a guy who built them for use with his Warhammer game but lost interest. Really must dig them out and do those kits justice one day.
That's really nice, the Starfury looks really sinister in the all over black!


Stephen, thanks for following. Yes I'm using EZ Line. Seemed to work really well when I tried it between a piece of sprue.



So, you're saying you've got 4 in total? OMG! I'm somewhat jealous! Looking back, I should have bought more than 1!



I did email Revell about re-issuing the kit, but no luck!

PS. I'll second JackFlash's comments about EZ-line! It's the best! Red-Roo models is my source!
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Member Since: March 10, 2010
entire network: 2,568 Posts
KitMaker Network: 126 Posts
Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 11:02 AM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

Russell, have to admit I've not looked at them but will have to I think.
I have Sheridan's Flying Tiger boxing and the other which included the Black Omega scheme. There's also a couple of built but unpainted ones somewhere I got cheap from a guy who built them for use with his Warhammer game but lost interest. Really must dig them out and do those kits justice one day.
That's really nice, the Starfury looks really sinister in the all over black!


Stephen, thanks for following. Yes I'm using EZ Line. Seemed to work really well when I tried it between a piece of sprue.



So, you're saying you've got 4 in total? OMG! I'm somewhat jealous! Looking back, I should have bought more than 1!



I did email Revell about re-issuing the kit, but no luck!

PS. I'll second JackFlash's comments about EZ-line! It's the best! Red-Roo models is my source!



Seems like it. I would have to go back round my parents for them when the lockdown is over. To be honest I can't remember what the quality of the built ones is though. Might be a lot of work to restore, but worth it. Luckily the boxed kits have plenty of decals to use on them.
I did have a look on eBay this afternoon. Over £100! Unbelievable.

The EZ line seemed to work well when I tried it, fingers crossed when I come to rug this beastie.
RussellE
#306
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Member Since: June 27, 2010
entire network: 3,956 Posts
KitMaker Network: 35 Posts
Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 12:19 AM UTC

Quoted Text



Seems like it. I would have to go back round my parents for them when the lockdown is over. To be honest I can't remember what the quality of the built ones is though. Might be a lot of work to restore, but worth it. Luckily the boxed kits have plenty of decals to use on them.
I did have a look on eBay this afternoon. Over £100! Unbelievable.

The EZ line seemed to work well when I tried it, fingers crossed when I come to rug this beastie.



Truly Unbelievable! £100! for a few bits of plastic! Would have bought a dozen or more if I'd known
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Member Since: March 10, 2010
entire network: 2,568 Posts
KitMaker Network: 126 Posts
Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 02:45 AM UTC
It's a bit silly when you think about it.
I don't think I would sell them though. What would I buy with it? Another kit
RussellE
#306
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Member Since: June 27, 2010
entire network: 3,956 Posts
KitMaker Network: 35 Posts
Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 11:35 PM UTC

Quoted Text

It's a bit silly when you think about it.
I don't think I would sell them though. What would I buy with it? Another kit



yup-if it were me I'd buy the Airfix Wallace and Gromit Anti-Pesto Van with the money (Another kit I wish I'd bought way back when!)
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Member Since: March 10, 2010
entire network: 2,568 Posts
KitMaker Network: 126 Posts
Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 05:19 AM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

It's a bit silly when you think about it.
I don't think I would sell them though. What would I buy with it? Another kit



yup-if it were me I'd buy the Airfix Wallace and Gromit Anti-Pesto Van with the money (Another kit I wish I'd bought way back when!)



Used to see those quite often in the toy section of discount stores over here. Never one I got because I was never sure if it was any use to me.


Still working away quietly on the Rumpler. Nothing terribly exciting, just all the little bits.
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Member Since: March 10, 2010
entire network: 2,568 Posts
KitMaker Network: 126 Posts
Posted: Friday, May 08, 2020 - 10:10 AM UTC
Really happy with how the Parabellum has turned out. I gave it a coat of matt black over a darkgrey primer and finally rubbed on some Mig Gun Metal weathering powder. Grip and but was painted pale sand and then some Vallejo dark wood grain brushed on.



The decal saga continues with the upper surface of the wings. These are much more of a devil to apply. Not only lining up the rib tapes, but also the tape around the edges. Quite tricky to keep the leading and trailing edges lined up to achieve the effect of a long strip around the wing.



This is by far the largest decalling job I've yet attempted and I'll probably not do so again for a while.
RussellE
#306
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Member Since: June 27, 2010
entire network: 3,956 Posts
KitMaker Network: 35 Posts
Posted: Friday, May 08, 2020 - 09:22 PM UTC
Great work on the Parabellum Stephen!

It's those little details that really bring the model to life!

Good luck with the decals, looking forward to seeing the finished product soon!
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Member Since: March 10, 2010
entire network: 2,568 Posts
KitMaker Network: 126 Posts
Posted: Friday, May 08, 2020 - 11:27 PM UTC
Thanks Russell.

Not sure what happened with the second photo.
Let's try again.

RussellE
#306
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Member Since: June 27, 2010
entire network: 3,956 Posts
KitMaker Network: 35 Posts
Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2020 - 09:29 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Thanks Russell.

Not sure what happened with the second photo.
Let's try again.




ah, now that makes more sense! Looks great!
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Member Since: March 10, 2010
entire network: 2,568 Posts
KitMaker Network: 126 Posts
Posted: Monday, May 11, 2020 - 02:28 AM UTC
Thanks Russell.
Not sure what happened to the photos on the first post.

The lozenge decalling is proving to be a long and slow process. Always finding the odd wrinkle and airbubble to try and deal with. Especially around the wing tips and rib stitching. Might be a while before I attempt another. I've just ordered the Halberstadt CL.II, which is very lozenge heavy. Even needs hand-painted lozenge along the fuselage. I must be mad!
redcap
Visit this Community
England - East Midlands, United Kingdom
Member Since: November 06, 2005
entire network: 753 Posts
KitMaker Network: 41 Posts
Posted: Monday, May 11, 2020 - 04:16 AM UTC
Really nice work Stephen and the Loz work with the decals is coming along nicely. Looking good so far!

Gary
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Member Since: March 10, 2010
entire network: 2,568 Posts
KitMaker Network: 126 Posts
Posted: Monday, May 11, 2020 - 07:56 AM UTC
Thanks Gary.

What would be a good clear coat to put over the lozenge? A Matt or satin finish?
Kevlar06
Visit this Community
Washington, United States
Member Since: March 15, 2009
entire network: 3,670 Posts
KitMaker Network: 527 Posts
Posted: Monday, May 11, 2020 - 10:35 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Thanks Gary.

What would be a good clear coat to put over the lozenge? A Matt or satin finish?



Not sure what other folks prefer, but I use Alclad II “light sheen” right out of the bottle. They also make clear flat if you want a dead flat finish.
VR, Russ
redcap
Visit this Community
England - East Midlands, United Kingdom
Member Since: November 06, 2005
entire network: 753 Posts
KitMaker Network: 41 Posts
Posted: Monday, May 11, 2020 - 01:12 PM UTC
If you still have the wing crosses to do, I would gloss the lot and seal the crosses in with a second coat and then go matt on the canvas parts and satin on the metal parts of the air-frame for contrast. Tamiya acrylic varnishes I find are excellent for this.

Really good progress so far.
Gary
RussellE
#306
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Member Since: June 27, 2010
entire network: 3,956 Posts
KitMaker Network: 35 Posts
Posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 09:53 AM UTC

Quoted Text

If you still have the wing crosses to do, I would gloss the lot and seal the crosses in with a second coat and then go matt on the canvas parts and satin on the metal parts of the air-frame for contrast. Tamiya acrylic varnishes I find are excellent for this.

Really good progress so far.
Gary



I second that!

Gloss the lot to create a uniform surface, matt the canvas parts, satin on the metal
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Member Since: March 10, 2010
entire network: 2,568 Posts
KitMaker Network: 126 Posts
Posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 12:05 PM UTC
Thanks for the advice.
Wasn't sure what sort of finish the dope would give on the original. It's sometimes not easy to work out on old black and white photos but that would give the effect of different materials and finishes.
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Member Since: March 10, 2010
entire network: 2,568 Posts
KitMaker Network: 126 Posts
Posted: Monday, May 18, 2020 - 02:56 AM UTC
Spent a little time yesterday on the lozenges on the tailplanes and bottom of the fuselage. These were much easier to get on than the larger ones on the wings. I probably should have trimmed the cutout for the camera, but it completely slipped my mind.



It's starting to get a lot closer to the finish line now.
RussellE
#306
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Member Since: June 27, 2010
entire network: 3,956 Posts
KitMaker Network: 35 Posts
Posted: Monday, May 18, 2020 - 10:18 AM UTC
looking good Stephen
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Member Since: March 10, 2010
entire network: 2,568 Posts
KitMaker Network: 126 Posts
Posted: Monday, June 01, 2020 - 07:49 AM UTC
Thanks Russell.

Finally got the lozenge finished over the weekend. Gave it a seal with some more gloss and started on the crosses and stencils.





The end is looking even closer. Giving some thought to what to build next. Decided on a choice of two, Rodens Sopwith Tripe or SE.5A.

I've also managed to acquire a couple more WNW while I still could at sensible prices, the Halberstadt CL.II, Jasta 18 Alb D.V and the Barker Sopwith Snipe.
Redhand
#522
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Member Since: January 20, 2013
entire network: 1,459 Posts
KitMaker Network: 15 Posts
Posted: Monday, June 01, 2020 - 08:55 AM UTC
This looks beautiful!
RussellE
#306
Visit this Community
Victoria, Australia
Member Since: June 27, 2010
entire network: 3,956 Posts
KitMaker Network: 35 Posts
Posted: Monday, June 01, 2020 - 09:43 AM UTC
Stephen, I second Brian's comment: Beautiful...

for your next build, my vote goes to the SE5a
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Member Since: March 10, 2010
entire network: 2,568 Posts
KitMaker Network: 126 Posts
Posted: Monday, June 01, 2020 - 11:56 AM UTC
Thanks guys.

I'm leaning towards the SE.5A Russell. Probably going to finish it in Mannock's colours. I have his biography I plan on reading once I finish a re-read of Dune (ahead of the new films release). He strikes me as an interesting man and the complete polar opposite of Richthofen. One coming from priveleged nobility, the other a socialist from a poor Irish family. Yet both the top aces. Would have been interesting to put them in a room together.
GeneKoro
Visit this Community
United States
Member Since: January 28, 2009
entire network: 3 Posts
KitMaker Network: 0 Posts
Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2020 - 08:25 AM UTC
I can't see any photos in this thread - using Chrome. Is it just me, or do others have a similar problem?

Thanks,

Gene K