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WNW Rumpler C.IV build
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2020 - 02:56 AM UTC
Spent a little time yesterday on the lozenges on the tailplanes and bottom of the fuselage. These were much easier to get on than the larger ones on the wings. I probably should have trimmed the cutout for the camera, but it completely slipped my mind.



It's starting to get a lot closer to the finish line now.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 12:05 PM UTC
Thanks for the advice.
Wasn't sure what sort of finish the dope would give on the original. It's sometimes not easy to work out on old black and white photos but that would give the effect of different materials and finishes.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 09:53 AM UTC

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If you still have the wing crosses to do, I would gloss the lot and seal the crosses in with a second coat and then go matt on the canvas parts and satin on the metal parts of the air-frame for contrast. Tamiya acrylic varnishes I find are excellent for this.

Really good progress so far.
Gary



I second that!

Gloss the lot to create a uniform surface, matt the canvas parts, satin on the metal
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2020 - 01:12 PM UTC
If you still have the wing crosses to do, I would gloss the lot and seal the crosses in with a second coat and then go matt on the canvas parts and satin on the metal parts of the air-frame for contrast. Tamiya acrylic varnishes I find are excellent for this.

Really good progress so far.
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2020 - 10:35 AM UTC

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Thanks Gary.

What would be a good clear coat to put over the lozenge? A Matt or satin finish?



Not sure what other folks prefer, but I use Alclad II “light sheen” right out of the bottle. They also make clear flat if you want a dead flat finish.
VR, Russ
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2020 - 07:56 AM UTC
Thanks Gary.

What would be a good clear coat to put over the lozenge? A Matt or satin finish?
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2020 - 04:16 AM UTC
Really nice work Stephen and the Loz work with the decals is coming along nicely. Looking good so far!

Gary
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2020 - 02:28 AM UTC
Thanks Russell.
Not sure what happened to the photos on the first post.

The lozenge decalling is proving to be a long and slow process. Always finding the odd wrinkle and airbubble to try and deal with. Especially around the wing tips and rib stitching. Might be a while before I attempt another. I've just ordered the Halberstadt CL.II, which is very lozenge heavy. Even needs hand-painted lozenge along the fuselage. I must be mad!
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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2020 - 09:29 PM UTC

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Thanks Russell.

Not sure what happened with the second photo.
Let's try again.




ah, now that makes more sense! Looks great!
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2020 - 11:27 PM UTC
Thanks Russell.

Not sure what happened with the second photo.
Let's try again.

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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2020 - 09:22 PM UTC
Great work on the Parabellum Stephen!

It's those little details that really bring the model to life!

Good luck with the decals, looking forward to seeing the finished product soon!
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2020 - 10:10 AM UTC
Really happy with how the Parabellum has turned out. I gave it a coat of matt black over a darkgrey primer and finally rubbed on some Mig Gun Metal weathering powder. Grip and but was painted pale sand and then some Vallejo dark wood grain brushed on.



The decal saga continues with the upper surface of the wings. These are much more of a devil to apply. Not only lining up the rib tapes, but also the tape around the edges. Quite tricky to keep the leading and trailing edges lined up to achieve the effect of a long strip around the wing.



This is by far the largest decalling job I've yet attempted and I'll probably not do so again for a while.
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 05:19 AM UTC

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It's a bit silly when you think about it.
I don't think I would sell them though. What would I buy with it? Another kit



yup-if it were me I'd buy the Airfix Wallace and Gromit Anti-Pesto Van with the money (Another kit I wish I'd bought way back when!)



Used to see those quite often in the toy section of discount stores over here. Never one I got because I was never sure if it was any use to me.


Still working away quietly on the Rumpler. Nothing terribly exciting, just all the little bits.
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 11:35 PM UTC

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It's a bit silly when you think about it.
I don't think I would sell them though. What would I buy with it? Another kit



yup-if it were me I'd buy the Airfix Wallace and Gromit Anti-Pesto Van with the money (Another kit I wish I'd bought way back when!)
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 02:45 AM UTC
It's a bit silly when you think about it.
I don't think I would sell them though. What would I buy with it? Another kit
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Seems like it. I would have to go back round my parents for them when the lockdown is over. To be honest I can't remember what the quality of the built ones is though. Might be a lot of work to restore, but worth it. Luckily the boxed kits have plenty of decals to use on them.
I did have a look on eBay this afternoon. Over £100! Unbelievable.

The EZ line seemed to work well when I tried it, fingers crossed when I come to rug this beastie.



Truly Unbelievable! £100! for a few bits of plastic! Would have bought a dozen or more if I'd known
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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 11:02 AM UTC

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Russell, have to admit I've not looked at them but will have to I think.
I have Sheridan's Flying Tiger boxing and the other which included the Black Omega scheme. There's also a couple of built but unpainted ones somewhere I got cheap from a guy who built them for use with his Warhammer game but lost interest. Really must dig them out and do those kits justice one day.
That's really nice, the Starfury looks really sinister in the all over black!


Stephen, thanks for following. Yes I'm using EZ Line. Seemed to work really well when I tried it between a piece of sprue.



So, you're saying you've got 4 in total? OMG! I'm somewhat jealous! Looking back, I should have bought more than 1!



I did email Revell about re-issuing the kit, but no luck!

PS. I'll second JackFlash's comments about EZ-line! It's the best! Red-Roo models is my source!



Seems like it. I would have to go back round my parents for them when the lockdown is over. To be honest I can't remember what the quality of the built ones is though. Might be a lot of work to restore, but worth it. Luckily the boxed kits have plenty of decals to use on them.
I did have a look on eBay this afternoon. Over £100! Unbelievable.

The EZ line seemed to work well when I tried it, fingers crossed when I come to rug this beastie.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 10:03 AM UTC

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Russell, have to admit I've not looked at them but will have to I think.
I have Sheridan's Flying Tiger boxing and the other which included the Black Omega scheme. There's also a couple of built but unpainted ones somewhere I got cheap from a guy who built them for use with his Warhammer game but lost interest. Really must dig them out and do those kits justice one day.
That's really nice, the Starfury looks really sinister in the all over black!


Stephen, thanks for following. Yes I'm using EZ Line. Seemed to work really well when I tried it between a piece of sprue.



So, you're saying you've got 4 in total? OMG! I'm somewhat jealous! Looking back, I should have bought more than 1!



I did email Revell about re-issuing the kit, but no luck!

PS. I'll second JackFlash's comments about EZ-line! It's the best! Red-Roo models is my source!
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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 03:50 AM UTC
Russell, have to admit I've not looked at them but will have to I think.
I have Sheridan's Flying Tiger boxing and the other which included the Black Omega scheme. There's also a couple of built but unpainted ones somewhere I got cheap from a guy who built them for use with his Warhammer game but lost interest. Really must dig them out and do those kits justice one day.
That's really nice, the Starfury looks really sinister in the all over black!


Stephen, thanks for following. Yes I'm using EZ Line. Seemed to work really well when I tried it between a piece of sprue.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - 04:39 PM UTC
Nice work Stephen. What will you use for rigging? If you are concerned about tension don't let it bother you. The whole affair is rather stout when completed. I have always used invisible (smoke colored) sewing thread. But recently I have used E-Z line in some of my 1/32 builds just to try it and am very pleased with the results. It is available in Railroad hobby shops. Here are a couple of shots using E-Z line.


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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - 12:51 PM UTC

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Thanks Russell. They turned out much better than I expected. Very colourful though, I hope a final coat of matt or satin will tone it down a little.



Agreed, I usually head for the satin coat these days for a/c as I find that it's a lot closer to the real thing


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It would be amazing to get B5 on a remastered Blu-ray. Unfortunately there are a lot of factors that are preventing it. Mostly technical, but the main one being Warner Brothers lack of interest in the show.
The biggest challenge would be re-doing all of the effects shots. To do a true remaster requires the originals both digital CGI and film. Unfortunately, they've since been lost after the effects company dissolved and their computers sold off (amazingly the shows CGI was done on old Commodore Amiga 2000's). Rumour has it that even the original film negatives are also missing. When the dvd release was made, WB cheaped out and ripped the episodes from VHS tapes. Hence the fuzziness of those editions.
It's a shame, as I'm sure it would sell and would be great lasting legacy to the many cast members who have died in recent years.



I've heard much the same thing about the possibility of a remastered version for Blu-Ray. I think the main impediment for it is WB's reluctance to cough up the coin as they're worried it may not have the return on investment that say something like Star Trek Original series did (which by the way looks really good remastered).

Hopefully one day, WB do do it though, as the Producers had the foresight to shoot on 35mm film even though TV was still 4:3 at that time and as effects get cheaper it will prompt them to re-visit it.

It's a shame how many of the cast have passed away so young!

Unfortunately in the case of Farscape I don't think it will ever happen, unless a miracle occurs as the original film has gone missing and is suspected to be in a landfill somewhere on the outskirts of Sydney


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I really must get around to my parents and find the Revell-Monogram kits of the station and Starfury fighters I bought back when they were first released. A pity they never got around to doing more kits, like AMT did with their Star Trek range. Would have loved a Whitestar and Earth Force Destroyer.





If you have the Star Fury in your stash, unbuilt, then you're rich! Have a look at the prices they're going for on ebay etc!

Would be great to see you build it!

I'd love to get my hands on a new kit and build another, with the skills I have now. Here's the one I built around 20plus years ago. Not bad at the time, but I'm sure I could do better now, Lol!



Maybe Revell will re-issue for the 30th anniversary!
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Posted: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - 03:50 AM UTC
Thanks Russell. They turned out much better than I expected. Very colourful though, I hope a final coat of matt or satin will tone it down a little.

It would be amazing to get B5 on a remastered Blu-ray. Unfortunately there are a lot of factors that are preventing it. Mostly technical, but the main one being Warner Brothers lack of interest in the show.
The biggest challenge would be re-doing all of the effects shots. To do a true remaster requires the originals both digital CGI and film. Unfortunately, they've since been lost after the effects company dissolved and their computers sold off (amazingly the shows CGI was done on old Commodore Amiga 2000's). Rumour has it that even the original film negatives are also missing. When the dvd release was made, WB cheaped out and ripped the episodes from VHS tapes. Hence the fuzziness of those editions.
It's a shame, as I'm sure it would sell and would be great lasting legacy to the many cast members who have died in recent years.

I really must get around to my parents and find the Revell-Monogram kits of the station and Starfury fighters I bought back when they were first released. A pity they never got around to doing more kits, like AMT did with their Star Trek range. Would have loved a Whitestar and Earth Force Destroyer.



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Posted: Monday, April 27, 2020 - 11:01 PM UTC

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Decided to put on my favourite TV show, Babylon 5, in the dvd this afternoon and crack on.

Got the upper wing lozenge done and painted in the padding around the cockpits. The wingtip decals needed a little persuading to settle down, hot water and gentle pressure did the trick




No way!!! Babylon was my all time favourite show back in the day too! 🙂 Only surpassed by Farscape when they came out, but only by a very narrow margin!

Ground breaking shows both, and could still teach the newbies a thing or two these days!

Now, if only they'd digitally remaster both for Blu Ray!!! 🤔

And the lozenge decals are looking good, Stephen
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Posted: Monday, April 27, 2020 - 09:09 AM UTC

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Nice work.
If you're havi g trouble getting the decals to settle down on curved edges, use a little decal setting solution and a hairdryer.

Gary



Thanks Gary, I've been using Microset which is doing the trick. I think the upper decals will need more persuasion, they do wrap around a lot more so I'll try the hairdryer on them.
Cheers

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Nice work.
If you're havi g trouble getting the decals to settle down on curved edges, use a little decal setting solution and a hairdryer.

Gary