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Latest WnW report from NZ
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2020 - 01:52 AM UTC
In a related issue, here’s a report on the fraud case at the The Vintage Aviator, which left PJ and his related companies seeing a loss. Let’s hope that PJ does not assume a “scorched earth” stance in all of this, and either sells to recoup some of the loss, or tries again to re-start in some different format.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/116805090/filmmaker-peter-jacksons-piranha-gene-demarco-jailed-for-fraud-and-theft

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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2020 - 12:52 AM UTC
I agree with Gary that the fact that no one official has said anything to counter all these rumors and reports speaks pretty loudly. I can't imagine a company seeing all these things about it shutting down without issuing some sort of statement if they aren't true.

As for the molds, we don't know how far along the Lancs or DR.1s were. I don't hold out much hope for the Lancs, there is already a pretty good one on the market and a 1/32 scale Lancaster is a pretty niche product. (By the way, I'll bet those HK Models kits have seen an uptick in sales!) Hard to say with the DR.1. They're much more likely to sell than a Lanc and the Roden kits are harder to find these day. But again, I agree with Gary that if they do sell off the molds they're only likely to find buyers for the more mainstream, "lower" price items. I'm not holding my breath that we'll see re-releases of Gothas, AEG's, Felixtowes, etc. anytime soon.

By way of modeling, and if anyone's interested, Bob R. is putting together a WWI campaign in honor of WnW.

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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2020 - 10:34 PM UTC

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This is indeed sad news. I hope someone can buy the moulds.


I am probably showing my ignorance here but it would seem to me that once the molds are made and performing as needed then the most expensive phase of a project is done.
It would seem that the Lanc and the Dr 1 are past this point so surely we might eventually see them - Dr 1 at least.
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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2020 - 10:05 PM UTC

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This is indeed sad news. I hope someone can buy the moulds.



I think there is a possibility (IF PJ wants to sell them rather than adopt a scorched earth policy as he closes down his 'baby') that some of the more popular ones such as the Albatross, DVII, Camels and possibly even the Dr1 to finish the project may get bought or some offers made, but the rest....? There were so many esoteric subjects in the range and the fact some of them were in production 10 years before selling out their initial production run shows how slowly, or 'steadily', they must have sold.

Also, the current demand for WNW and the prices they are commanding on eBay right now - as well as some naked profiteering by traders - is not reflective of customer demand moving forward and people have been buying them (myself included!) simply as as a panic reaction to closure. Rather, this demand and pricing is just a temporary phenomena in the hobby; just like was happening with toilet rolls and hand sanitiser about 6-8 weeks ago!

Coupled to which is the fact that WNW have done nothing to counter the internet rumours and debates of looming closure as damage limitation to company reputation.

For me however and most telling, is the ring of truth and detail to articles by the likes of Dave Wilson which leads any rational and non-conspiracy theorist to only one conclusion - i.e. they are not coming back from this!

Bottom line - get them whilst you still can because this is one phoenix which most probably isn't going to rise again in a WNW format nor in any other shape (or kit company box) either.

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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2020 - 05:38 PM UTC
This is indeed sad news. I hope someone can buy the moulds.
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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2020 - 04:54 AM UTC
I just meant that it's not really news anymore, but more and possibly more reliable confirmation is sad.

As for the kits, I've been looking around the online shops here in the States and they are pretty much cleaned out. Word has definitely gotten around.

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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2020 - 04:43 AM UTC

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Very sad news indeed, even if not really "news" at this point.

Michael



I think what’s new “news” is that it’s now being acknowledged in a New Zealand business journal. It’s strange PJs movie production company hasn’t acknowledged taking over the WnW business, or continued sales of the remaining stock (not the molds, but the existing kits remaining). I get the impression the kits are sitting in a WnW warehouse, shuttered along with everything else. What role will Weta Workshop have in all in this? They are a movie prop company, heavily associated with PJs Movie production company (at one time they were distributors of WnW kits in NZ).
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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2020 - 12:36 AM UTC
Very sad news indeed, even if not really "news" at this point.

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Posted: Saturday, May 16, 2020 - 03:35 PM UTC
I have an acquaintance in NZ who sent this latest news article on the fate of Wingnut Wings. Again, it doesn’t look good. And the latest from wwiaircraftmodels.com regarding more details from the workers at WnW. The fact they’ve taken the Lancasters and Fokker Dr1 off the catalog and suspended sales is also revealing. But the “Stuff NZ “ Business article below is most revealing.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/121537116/sir-peter-jacksons-wingnut-wings-model-company-shuts?cid=app-iPad

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11118.msg205513#msg205513

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