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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2020 - 06:53 AM UTC
Corrugated Roof and sides covered dugout .
Apoxie sculpt is still wet ,this can be fit into any trench section or whatever .
That's all for today


PS
Under the sandbags ,is just tape for easy removing the the top part (not a tarp)
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2020 - 06:51 AM UTC
thanks Jason
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Very Nice Maarten, the Australian Army used "Hessian Sandbags" so more of a woven tight material...which would be painful to detail in 1/35, I love what you have done here mate, great work..!



Thanks mate !
Actually every single bag has a hessian texture , By pressing a piece of soft black packing foam, I tried out many different types the one i went with came from a packing for 1/32 MG barrels .
It only doesn't show up on the pics because of the shine of the primer They are not smooth other wise they look


Wow, sorry mate for my lack of attention to detail, you are the SANDBAG KING...!


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Posted: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 - 08:36 AM UTC

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Very Nice Maarten, the Australian Army used "Hessian Sandbags" so more of a woven tight material...which would be painful to detail in 1/35, I love what you have done here mate, great work..!



Thanks mate !
Actually every single bag has a hessian texture , By pressing a piece of soft black packing foam, I tried out many different types the one i went with came from a packing for 1/32 MG barrels .
It only doesn't show up on the pics because of the shine of the primer They are not smooth other wise they look



that's probably the same green sandbag I was referring to. The material was plastic or maybe nylon. Woven as you say, and I have no idea how to replicate this. (maybe with a double file?) The green is close to Marine forest green, but a touch brighter. We got them by the bundles, and they'd load three bundles in the back of a five ton for whomever he was mad at that day. (First Sargent). I never filled a single bag in my life time of enslavement.

I saw the guys drive a five ton into a shallow spot in the river, and fill the three bundles of bags once. They couldn't get the truck out of the river! So they brought a second truck and off loaded two thirds of the bags by hand. Then winched the truck out of the river bottom. Not a good day, and you know who was beyond his limits of being a nice guy that day. So they got an extra week of filling bags! I stacked the bags till well past midnight.
gary



Hi Gary, best picture I can find of the Hessian sandbags we used...both green and the lighter colour as per below...out of my depth with trying to detail them in 1/35, awesome work by Maarten and you to detail the texture...!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Faussieenvironmental.com.au%2Fproduct%2Fhessian-sandbags%2F&psig=AOvVaw09GnhUiPbfrim4ME2JsEC0&ust=1605212756510000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCIi6ndOp--wCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAK
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Posted: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 - 08:06 AM UTC

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You must dream of sandbags at night, don't you !?
Really cool work, hats off

J



Gracias.
I haven't had one for a week now
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Posted: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 - 03:27 AM UTC
You must dream of sandbags at night, don't you !?
Really cool work, hats off

J
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Posted: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 - 12:53 AM UTC
Does Anybody know ,where, other pictures or any other information for this one ? Because i really like this one.
Thanks in advance :+1:
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Posted: Saturday, November 07, 2020 - 10:49 PM UTC
Robin Nilsson,


If you have something to ad to my work any fun / interesting facts about sandbags or vietnam bunkers...... or you don't like or do like what i done please do ,

Otherwise ,
Please stop Hijacking my tread with...information that has nothing to do with my content
Thanks.
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Gary,
I activated your account on the new forums, just in case that activation e-mail has gone AWOL



Hey thanks a bunch! I was sorta getting desperate, as it would not take any data I supplied. Then to top it off, my email seems to have moved off the planet.
gary



I just activated 'digger' too .....



Digger? There's exactly two people on here tht know Digger. Used to be a very close friend
gary



Well,
there are two accounts in the new forum, trickymissfit and digger, both have used the same ip-address when signing up and both have stated the name Gary Totty.
Must be a close friend
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Posted: Saturday, November 07, 2020 - 11:35 AM UTC

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Very Nice Maarten, the Australian Army used "Hessian Sandbags" so more of a woven tight material...which would be painful to detail in 1/35, I love what you have done here mate, great work..!



Thanks mate !
Actually every single bag has a hessian texture , By pressing a piece of soft black packing foam, I tried out many different types the one i went with came from a packing for 1/32 MG barrels .
It only doesn't show up on the pics because of the shine of the primer They are not smooth other wise they look



that's probably the same green sandbag I was referring to. The material was plastic or maybe nylon. Woven as you say, and I have no idea how to replicate this. (maybe with a double file?) The green is close to Marine forest green, but a touch brighter. We got them by the bundles, and they'd load three bundles in the back of a five ton for whomever he was mad at that day. (First Sargent). I never filled a single bag in my life time of enslavement.

I saw the guys drive a five ton into a shallow spot in the river, and fill the three bundles of bags once. They couldn't get the truck out of the river! So they brought a second truck and off loaded two thirds of the bags by hand. Then winched the truck out of the river bottom. Not a good day, and you know who was beyond his limits of being a nice guy that day. So they got an extra week of filling bags! I stacked the bags till well past midnight.
gary
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Wow! Incredible work!
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Posted: Friday, November 06, 2020 - 10:07 PM UTC
[/quote] Very Nice Maarten, the Australian Army used "Hessian Sandbags" so more of a woven tight material...which would be painful to detail in 1/35, I love what you have done here mate, great work..! [/quote]

Thanks mate !
Actually every single bag has a hessian texture , By pressing a piece of soft black packing foam, I tried out many different types the one i went with came from a packing for 1/32 MG barrels .
It only doesn't show up on the pics because of the shine of the primer They are not smooth other wise they look
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Posted: Friday, November 06, 2020 - 04:14 PM UTC

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I've stacked thousands and thousands of sand bags in my sentence of indentured enslavement.



Great info Gary, thank you!

Mario



Actually Top and I are closer than I was with my own Father! Just that my walls stayed together. I never ever filled a single sand bag, and it was whomever he had in his own little dog house that married the shovel. I was enslaved due to an incident with a Sargent Major and a rice paddy. He was long gone, but Top kept finding ways to keep me busy till midnight or even two in the morning.

Back to the bags. Most folks get the colors every so majorly wrong by the time frame. Green bags are not canvas but somekind of woven plastic material (think trash bags). They started to appear in very late Spring or early Summer 68. Prior to that you had canvas bags in grey and a purple violet color. It was very common to see these two mixed together. It was mostly what the flew out to you, and you don't get to select your favorite colors. Sand is not all that good for sand bags as when the bag is ripped open the sand runs out (almost always down by the bottom row). Good old red clay was best. So after a month in the monsoon, you often saw pretty red orange streaks going to meet the Satan.

The NVA had a combat position called a "sapper". We didn't that I know of. They often used a sand bag with with a block of C4 or even TNT out of a dud 155 round with a fuse lit. Then there of course was the hand grenade, but not as often as you'd think. They also made a home made grenade out of a beer can with black powder and a fuse. Simply roll in a couple at the sametime, and your history. All that chicken wire puts a damper in his plans.

Never liked bunkers much as I always had an uneasy feeling around midnight. Still they had there pluses (dry and pretty much bullet proof), but if my stomach groaned I went outside in the rain.

That roof top observation point needs two or three things. A field telephone, a Starlight scope on a tripod, and an M14 rifle (no scope). Maybe add one of those Igloo coolers to make it kinda deluxe, and of course the M60 with a few cans of ammo.
gary



Very Nice Maarten, the Australian Army used "Hessian Sandbags" so more of a woven tight material...which would be painful to detail in 1/35, I love what you have done here mate, great work..!
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Gary,
I activated your account on the new forums, just in case that activation e-mail has gone AWOL



Hey thanks a bunch! I was sorta getting desperate, as it would not take any data I supplied. Then to top it off, my email seems to have moved off the planet.
gary



I just activated 'digger' too .....



Digger? There's exactly two people on here tht know Digger. Used to be a very close friend
gary
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Gary,
I activated your account on the new forums, just in case that activation e-mail has gone AWOL



Hey thanks a bunch! I was sorta getting desperate, as it would not take any data I supplied. Then to top it off, my email seems to have moved off the planet.
gary



I just activated 'digger' too .....
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2020 - 08:06 PM UTC

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Gary,
I activated your account on the new forums, just in case that activation e-mail has gone AWOL



Hey thanks a bunch! I was sorta getting desperate, as it would not take any data I supplied. Then to top it off, my email seems to have moved off the planet.
gary
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Gary,
I activated your account on the new forums, just in case that activation e-mail has gone AWOL
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2020 - 03:07 PM UTC

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The mortar pit,Finished and primed .

kept the ground in the pit bare ,
Because i am Not sure what ground texture to use when de dio is build .



Only been 52 years since I was in a mortar pit! Too late now, but the flash will show up at midnight like a roman candle. The pits we had at A102 had to been six or maybe even eight feet deep. Every one was made different, so your just fine. Still you can trust me when I tell you it so dark out there, that you can spot the end of a cigarette at 200 meters. Your ammo storage is just fine. We had a bunker just outside the pit that was about eight feet deep as well. You almost always start with illumination, and then move to HE, and once the illumination goes off they start looking for the source real hard. Our pit was a figure eight shape with four tubes. One 4.2" and the Russian counterpart. The other had an 81mm and an 82mm in it. SF had an almost endless supply of Chicom and Russian ammo, so why not use it up!
gary
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2020 - 02:54 PM UTC

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I've stacked thousands and thousands of sand bags in my sentence of indentured enslavement.



Great info Gary, thank you!

Mario



Actually Top and I are closer than I was with my own Father! Just that my walls stayed together. I never ever filled a single sand bag, and it was whomever he had in his own little dog house that married the shovel. I was enslaved due to an incident with a Sargent Major and a rice paddy. He was long gone, but Top kept finding ways to keep me busy till midnight or even two in the morning.

Back to the bags. Most folks get the colors every so majorly wrong by the time frame. Green bags are not canvas but somekind of woven plastic material (think trash bags). They started to appear in very late Spring or early Summer 68. Prior to that you had canvas bags in grey and a purple violet color. It was very common to see these two mixed together. It was mostly what the flew out to you, and you don't get to select your favorite colors. Sand is not all that good for sand bags as when the bag is ripped open the sand runs out (almost always down by the bottom row). Good old red clay was best. So after a month in the monsoon, you often saw pretty red orange streaks going to meet the Satan.

The NVA had a combat position called a "sapper". We didn't that I know of. They often used a sand bag with with a block of C4 or even TNT out of a dud 155 round with a fuse lit. Then there of course was the hand grenade, but not as often as you'd think. They also made a home made grenade out of a beer can with black powder and a fuse. Simply roll in a couple at the sametime, and your history. All that chicken wire puts a damper in his plans.

Never liked bunkers much as I always had an uneasy feeling around midnight. Still they had there pluses (dry and pretty much bullet proof), but if my stomach groaned I went outside in the rain.

That roof top observation point needs two or three things. A field telephone, a Starlight scope on a tripod, and an M14 rifle (no scope). Maybe add one of those Igloo coolers to make it kinda deluxe, and of course the M60 with a few cans of ammo.
gary
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2020 - 03:11 AM UTC
Hi Maarten,

Truly outstanding, love the detail, I have always wanted to do a Vietnam era Firebase type bunker, but sculpting all those sandbags has always put me off, but you've nailed it, .

Cheers, ,

G
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2020 - 02:40 AM UTC

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What they've said, it looks superb Maarten...but what's it doing here? This ship's slowly settling in the water & going down, hope you'll take this and your other "concrete" dios over to the new site soon



I am on the other site from now on
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2020 - 01:26 AM UTC
The mortar pit,Finished and primed .

kept the ground in the pit bare ,
Because i am Not sure what ground texture to use when de dio is build .
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2020 - 01:22 AM UTC

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Frigin A Piet , that looks soooooooo cool !!
Nicely done man !!



Thanks Brother , glad you like it ....no plaster used in these .
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Posted: Wednesday, November 04, 2020 - 10:16 PM UTC
Frigin A Piet , that looks soooooooo cool !!
Nicely done man !!