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Miniature Magic (Braille Scale Proposal)
Savage
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 01:12 AM UTC
Right, got some time on my hands and I can now go forward with the proposal. To try to accommodate as many as possible, this is the Build Proposal as it stands:

Campaign Title:
Miniature Magic

Campaign Type:
Mission

Start:
01 May 2005

End:
01 Sept 2005

Section/Interest:
General Modelling

Scale Range:
Min: Other
Max: 1/72

Operational Overview:
To help fortify and broaden the ‘Braille Scale kinship’ here on Armorama. A Braille Scale mission, in any genre (Sci-fi, Armour, Aircraft etc…) and category (OOB, Super detail, Scratch built etc…).

The Rules and Regs:

1. Scales only to a maximum of 1/72 scale be allowed and in any genre.
2. Where figures alone are entered (NOT part of a vehicle, ship etc.) there should be at least four and part of a Vignette / Diorama.
3. And most importantly HAVE FUN!

Contest Element:
An Award Ribbon (Still to be decided) will be awarded to all those completing the campaign.


As one of the aspects of the build is to broaden the ‘Braille Scale kinship’ please try to post your progress and show what can be achieved with Braille Scale! Also try to recruit other participants!

GOOD TO GO?
Sabot
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 01:50 AM UTC
I would adjust the scale range just slightly. I would state that it is geared towards either 1/76 or 1/72 but other scales are welcome. I know several sci-fi kits that are slightly larger than 1/72 scale (around 1/60 scale).

Then there comes the aircraft and ship predicament. A 1/72 scale aircraft isn't truly "Braille Scale" but rather the most popular scale for aircraft builders. Secondly, if a ship builder builds the Revell U-boat, S-boat or E-boat, are those really "Braille Scale" items?

Don't get me wrong, I am an avid Braille Scale builder, but these are just things to consider.
winters1
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 02:41 AM UTC
when this one is approved i wil join. Builded braille scale items a long time. But Sabot is right aircraft and ships are'nt braille scale they are huge! lol :-)
Art
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 05:42 AM UTC
Count me in for 18-25mm fantasy figs, if that's O.K.

Art
SpiritsEye
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 05:42 AM UTC
i'm in!
Savage
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 10:11 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I would adjust the scale range just slightly. I would state that it is geared towards either 1/76 or 1/72 but other scales are welcome. I know several sci-fi kits that are slightly larger than 1/72 scale (around 1/60 scale).



Rob, this also troubled me and in the initial proposal I did mention it:

"I know the colloquial / slang ‘Braille’ is applied mainly to armour in the scales 1/76 & 1/72, but for this campaign so as to allow other Genre we apply it to all scales from 1/72 and below.

Now I also know that while 1/72 is Braille to armour etc, for an aircraft carrier etc… it is huge!"

Maybe if we redo Rule 1 as follows:

Scales only to a maximum of 1/72 scale, in any genre, will be allowed, remember the ‘Spirit’ of the build, NO 1/72 scale U-Boats, Flower Class corvettes etc. Other scales will be considered on application.

Mainly owing to small-scale aircraft at present being (except for a handful) totally rubbish, I feel that 1/72 scale aircraft are small enough to include. I doubt anyone will be entering a 1/72 scale Hercules.

I want the build to go ahead as smoothly as possible, and don’t want to get hung up on too many rules.

We also could make it an Armour build only, aimed at 1/76 or 1/72, True Braille scale?
peacekeeper
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 10:17 AM UTC
Just in time....I just opened my 1:72 Karl and it's now on the list
Sabot
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 11:02 AM UTC
I would not suggest sticking to armor only. Perhaps "ground support equipment". This would allow small aircraft like a helicopter or FAC, landing craft, sci-fi items, fantasy figures, etc.
Moezilla
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 11:15 AM UTC
I'd be interested in this campaign too since I just picked up my first braille scale kit and haven't built it yet. Would give me a reason to build it other than just for fun.
mj
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 02:52 PM UTC
I'm in for a 1/72 armor piece. I wouldn't mind doing an aircraft model in that scale as well, if its within the rules. I like to mix up my genre's

Mike

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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 04:03 PM UTC
I'm in, for my first Braille build.

I've got a 1/72 Long Tom and Tractor ready to go.

N E O
Savage
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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 04:40 AM UTC
Hi, anybody else want to get in on the Scale proposal?

Sabot has a valid point, ‘Braille Scale’ usually applies to armour in the scales 1/76 & 1/72 only. The compromise "Ground Support" would allow for a lot including almost- all ground vehicles and ground attack vehicles. But most ships including Sci-fi would not be included.
winters1
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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 06:40 AM UTC
I think everything is ok you can create the campaign
Epi
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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 06:52 AM UTC
Didn't someone want to do this about a month ago. Wwe even came up witht the minimum number of participants to make it official.

Well, I'm in. I already started my kits back when this was first mentioned. At least on kit was done for a dio I was working on. I had put it away until this was thought of. I have the rest of the vehicles and figures to do.
BigBrother
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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 07:31 AM UTC
Iam in.....Iam thinking Academy 1/72 2-1/2 ton 6x6 truck its alittle jewle.
also maybee the old revell 1/144th B52 or academy B58 or RB57 or....or..... GOD I love this place!!!
Asmenoth
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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 08:36 AM UTC
hmmm, I'm in. No minimum scale and a max of 1/72? Sounds good. I'm new to this, so where/when do we post pics, or to whom do we send them?

:-)
Savage
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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 09:03 AM UTC
Right, the proposal is in!

Ignore the dates. In a moment of sheer Muppetry I entered the dates in the European style Day/Month/Year as opposed to the American style Month/Day/Year.

The correct dates are:

Start: 01 May 2005
End: 01 September 2005

I have mailed Staff_Jim asking for the necessary adjustments.

Rob, maybe the next one will be 1/72 & 1/76 only?

What is everyone going to build?
winters1
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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 08:09 PM UTC
i don't know what i'm going to build. I think I go for a Maus or a Ferdinand and a couple of figures.
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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 08:38 PM UTC
One question, can we scratchbuild?
Cheers
SpiritsEye
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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 10:49 PM UTC
hmm what am i gonna build? hmmm

i have a Revell Panzer III that REALLY needs to be done.

I also have a tiger I with zimmerit coating by DML too.

DML announced a few new 1/72 scale kits, maybe i'll be getting their jagdpanther, KT and the ferdinand.

All these kits comes with the new moulded on zimmerit.

so, hopefully i can finish all these

winters1
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Posted: Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 11:59 PM UTC
we have until 1 september. Thats long enough for a braille scale model.
Savage
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Posted: Friday, April 08, 2005 - 12:32 PM UTC

Quoted Text

One question, can we scratchbuild?
Cheers



Lestweforget, scratchbuilt, super detailed, OOB anything goes!



Quoted Text

Didn't someone want to do this about a month ago. We even came up with the minimum number of participants to make it official.



Epi, a few time constraints (that are now sorted) prevented me from going forward at the time.
mj
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Posted: Friday, April 08, 2005 - 02:57 PM UTC
That revell PzIII has been on my stack for quite a while as well. I was thinking of doing that in a winter scheme. Also, GreatModels has notified me of shipment of DML's "Maus", so I'll probably give that a try as well. I am also thinking about one of DML's 1/144 "train" kits...It's a few cars, with various military components. So many models...so little time.

Mike

Art
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Posted: Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 01:09 AM UTC
Savage;
Just checking-are 18-25mm fantasy figs O.K.?

Art
Savage
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Posted: Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 10:52 AM UTC
I don't see a problem with 18 - 25mm range (± 1/87 - 1/65 IIRC), as long as there are NO Nude Anythings running around.

Rules as to Figures apply; this includes, no less than four figues set in Vig / Dio.